Pay Code Changed

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

I challenge anyone here to find the words "Code 5" in the contract.

You have the right to 8. That's where it begins and ends. If they tell you that you don't have 8 hours of work it's on you to demand it.

...and if he doesn't demand it is he still entitled to his guarantee...?

 

[bottomups]

...and if he doesn't demand it is he still entitled to his guarantee...?

Unless he waives the 8 hour guarantee, YES.
I have had many days this year with guaranteed pay and never once asked for more work.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

The only 05 language we have pertains to Good Friday and Christmas Eve. But they can't force you to take an 05

Correction.
If you are late you waive your guarantee.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Unless he waives the 8 hour guarantee, YES.
I have had many days this year with guaranteed pay and never once asked for more work.

On any of those has your center manager or on car stated during the PCM what the OP said was stated during his?

I also get guarantee pay almost every day.

I have also run Code 05 when asked to do so.

 

[HEFFERNAN]

...and if he doesn't demand it is he still entitled to his guarantee...?

The whole center was instructed to ask for more work if they were going to be under 8 by the center manager.
The center manager opened up WAD by saying this.
He chose to come in and not notify anyone.
Considering this was working holiday pay, it was in the center manager's best interest to announce WAD before the day started.
He didn't follow instruction so he shouldn't get paid.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

The whole center was instructed to ask for more work if they were going to be under 8 by the center manager.
The center manager opened up WAD by saying this.
He chose to come in and not notify anyone.
Considering this was working holiday pay, it was in the center manager's best interest to announce WAD before the day started.
He didn't follow instruction so he shouldn't get paid.

I don't run on those days.

 

[Future]

On any of those has your center manager or on car stated during the PCM what the OP said was stated during his?

I also get guarantee pay almost every day.

I have also run Code 05 when asked to do so.

Been told ..technically there is no code 5

 

[Future]

I don't run on those days.

I can't run anymore

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Been told ..technically there is no code 5

Code 05 has for the most part been eliminated.

 

[Future]

Code 05 has for the most part been eliminated.

I only submit to it on special holiday air days etc

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

I only submit to it on special holiday air days etc

Slacker

 

[HEFFERNAN]

Code 05 has for the most part been eliminated.

I only submit to it on special holiday air days etc

I think it has more to do with the California lunch lawsuit than just paying hours worked.

 

[bottomups]

On any of those has your center manager or on car stated during the PCM what the OP said was stated during his?

I also get guarantee pay almost every day.

I have also run Code 05 when asked to do so.

Have not attended or heard a PCM in over 5 years.

 

[Future]

Have not attended or heard a PCM in over 5 years.

Recently I have ...changed centers.....lol ...just making a impression

 

[Brownslave688]

I have heard if you are going to come in under 8 you must first message in and ask if they need you to help out or do additional work. Also, did you take a full one hour lunch and your break?

Not how it's supposed to be but that's how my center does it. They change anyone that comes in under 8 to 05.

 

[Future]

Not how it's supposed to be but that's how my center does it. They change anyone that comes in under 8 to 05.

VIOLATION!!!!!!!!!

 

[Box Ox]

Not how it's supposed to be but that's how my center does it. They change anyone that comes in under 8 to 05.

You're getting cheated. At my center 05 is typically reserved for drivers who don't sign a list for an 8 hour request if we have to come in on a Saturday. Some drivers just want to go home ASAP but some want to stick around and do whatever at the center to get their 8 hour guarantee.

 

[Brownslave688]

The center manager mentioned the light day and the rules in the morning.
They offered everyone more work if they wanted it.
You chose to come in early and try to get away with some free cash.
If you grieve it, you have a 50/50 chance, but there will be repercussions.

The 8 hour day in the contract is to reference the minimum requirements of what a full time job is suppose to be.
Filing a grievance when you were smiling ear to ear on having an easy day is hypocritical.
2 things that piss off your center manager : drivers who work way more OT than they're suppose to and giving away money that was unearned.

Remember that these kind of grievances are the reasons why UPS cuts out so many routes and not give easy days anymore

They are just hurting themselves though. If I'm getting paid for 8 hours i am much more likely to hump it out and bring it early then if I'm taking a
Paid actual.

 

[Brownslave688]

You're getting cheated. At my center 05 is typically reserved for drivers who don't sign a list for an 8 hour request if we have to come in on a Saturday. Some drivers just want to go home ASAP but some want to stick around and do whatever at the center to get their 8 hour guarantee.

Virtually everyone here skips some break so almost everyone is 05

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Have not attended or heard a PCM in over 5 years.

They count heads each morning---can't skip them.