Peak season frustration

drazzy93

Well-Known Member
I did bag. It was a 7 person sort. You did everything.

You're a feisty one.

You had bins set up differently than mine then. my bins that are on the bottom are less than a foot off the ground and I need to get down on my knees to reach the packages in that bin. I don't do everything. I only do what I'm paid for.

But I'm over UPSers on here acting like they know everything there is to know about every single location. My job requires getting on my knees. Period. If yours don't you are lucky.
 

haller

Well-Known Member
Rant/questions about interactions with supervisors. I work in small sorts, and because of that I thankfully don't run into my FT supervisor all that often. Despite this fact, I don't really have a great impression of him.

There was a point in the past year where I lost my car, and experienced difficulty in getting to work. I was chaffeured around by my parents, and I was forced to miss a few shifts that week. One day I told my PT supervisor that I would be late that day to check and make sure it was fine for me to go in. They told me that it was fine, and so I was walking to my department 15 minutes late when my PT sup texts me telling me not to come in.

What the...? I try to reason with them because I wasted all that time and effort in getting to work just to be told to go home? After a couple of texts exchanged the PT sup eventually says, "(Insert FT supervisor name here) is really :censored2: off. Just go." Fine, whatever. I figured it was because of my poor attendance up to that point. I chose to forget about it even though it was a pretty crappy thing of them to do when they knew I was having a tough time getting to work.

My attendance improved tremendously, and I turned into one of the most hardworking employees. Peak season rolls around, and I'm showing up hours before everyone else. I'm doing multiple different tasks that are not even part of my job, basically subbing for everyone until all the regulars show up. Today I had worked 6 hours until I finally decided to sit down in this nook (my PT supervisor already told me it was fine to do this the day before), and I started to feel a little better.

Not even 10 seconds pass before my PT supervisor approaches me, says "You need to get up because you're pissing off the FT supervisor." My PT supervisor and I had engaged in some snarky correspondence earlier that day, so I just blew up (by my standards). I straight up disagreed with her, and I told her that I had only been sitting for 10 seconds, and I needed a break. They say to me, "Do you see anyone else sitting?" and completely set me off. "Well, was anyone else here when I showed up hours before everyone else? Is anyone else working in the busiest booth in this department?

I'm slinging at least 1,000 more packages than almost everyone here." I basically said. She finally cut off the conversation by saying "The point is that you need to not just sit down. You're permitted a break after 5 hours." Gee, thanks a lot. That would have been useful information over a week ago after pulling insane shifts every day. Would have been especially useful during that conversation where you told me it was OK to sit there. Anyway, I've heard that it's very difficult to get fired from UPS, but I just want to check and make sure I'm not pushing it by arguing with my PT supervisor like that.

I'm just tired of always coming in before everyone else, doing more work than anyone there, jumping back and forth in multiple positions, and then being treated by the PT supervisor like that. After the PT supervisor said "Do you see anyone else sitting?" I was tempted to say, "Well, gee, you're right. Maybe I should start showing up at the scheduled time instead of hours earlier as usual!" but I would never do that because I need the money. I'm just really starting to get irritated with my FT and PT sups.

I just want to make sure it's not a fireable offense to NOT be a doormat for everyone to walk all over. It was my PT supervisor's fault I was sitting there, and they should have accepted the blame for it instead of pining all of it on me. I've never actually argued with a supervisor before PT or FT so I just need to make sure I won't get in trouble for this. What is the parameters of this "impossibility" of getting fired?

They contradict themselves all the time. If you know it's wrong and they say it's ok, DON'T FALL FOR THE TRAP. Look out for yourself and show up if you want to actually be an employee here.
 

drazzy93

Well-Known Member
Also, your small sorts was clearly incredibly small. We do over 3,000 packages per aisle every night. 10,000 during peak season. This is NOT a 7 person sort and there are distinct baggers and sorters.
 

cosmo1

Perhaps.
Staff member
You had bins set up differently than mine then. my bins that are on the bottom are less than a foot off the ground and I need to get down on my knees to reach the packages in that bin. I don't do everything. I only do what I'm paid for.

But I'm over UPSers on here acting like they know everything there is to know about every single location. My job requires getting on my knees. Period. If yours don't you are lucky.

Have you contacted OSHA? There is no way you should be on your knees to reach packages.






Except for package car.
 

dudebro

Well-Known Member
Shirking off blame onto your subordinates is the UPS way to survive in management. Sort nor wrapped on time, blame the PT sups. Miss a trailer, blame a PT sup, or if bad enough a FT sup. Everyone in lower management is disposable starting at the bottom.
It's not THAT simple.
"Why didn't you wrap on time?"

"PT sups."

"Who trained them?"
 

wayfair

swollen member
First of all, my FT supervisor is 100% aware of it. He is the one who schedules us.

Secondly, "blow my stack over nothing?" Good one. You see, I was fine today, but my legs were simply becoming stiff and sore so I knew I needed to sit down to rub out the stiffness. I sat down for not even 10 SECONDS BEFORE the PT supervisor came running. Thirdly, it was NOT a break.

It's like how package handlers tend to sit down on big packages/tires when there is downtime. There was NOTHING to do in my booth, you see, I timed it so meticulously until the point where I had ZERO packages left to do, and I had to wait for more to come in so I just sat down. But somehow that "pisses off my FT supervisor" so I guess I will have to take a more time-consuming 10 minute break in the breakroom 200+ feet away as opposed to just sitting down for 15 seconds until my legs feel better.

Again, I had literally not sat there for any more than 10 seconds until the PT sup came up to me. I know a lot of people exaggerate these things, but I am not exaggerating at all. I was shocked that my FT supervisor had focused on these 5 seconds (which he somehow saw even though I had no idea where he was?) and berated me for those 5 seconds. So, yeah, I reiterate, the more time-consuming 10 minute break, having to hold up my supervisors and coworkers so that I can be relieved sounds like a much better idea.

If he's going to throw a fit over 10 seconds of sitting he deserves to experience the inconvenience of an employee taking a break in the middle of the shift.


4 months or 1 year?????
 

FrigidFTSup

Resident Suit
We do over 3,000 packages per aisle every night. 10,000 during peak season. This is NOT a 7 person sort and there are distinct baggers and sorters.
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drazzy93

Well-Known Member
Wuss.



Wuss.

Ha okay let me get this straight... You think I should contact OSHA and get them up the ass of UPS because my location expects us to have to get on our knees to reach some packages at the bottom of the bins? I'm able to handle it because I'm in shape, and I'm pretty young so I'm not going to whine over something like that.

If someone told me they were having issues, though I would support them going to OSHA. I have to get on my knees because I'm tall, and so I can't reach the ends of the lower bins. I think there are some people in my department who are short enough not to have to get on their knees. I mean, I could refuse to get on my knees, but it's just much more efficient that way.

I can see all the way through the bin if I'm on my knees, and if I'm just bending over I don't know if there are any packages at the end that haven't slid down my way.
 

cosmo1

Perhaps.
Staff member
Ha okay let me get this straight... You think I should contact OSHA and get them up the ass of UPS because my location expects us to have to get on our knees to reach some packages at the bottom of the bins? I'm able to handle it because I'm in shape, and I'm pretty young so I'm not going to whine over something like that.

If someone told me they were having issues, though I would support them going to OSHA. I have to get on my knees because I'm tall, and so I can't reach the ends of the lower bins. I think there are some people in my department who are short enough not to have to get on their knees. I mean, I could refuse to get on my knees, but it's just much more efficient that way.

I can see all the way through the bin if I'm on my knees, and if I'm just bending over I don't know if there are any packages at the end that haven't slid down my way.

Okey dokey then.

Quit your bitching, stretch.
 

drazzy93

Well-Known Member

What is pretty special is a 7 person sort full of sorters who double as baggers. At my small sorts the sorters sort, and the baggers bag. I sometimes sort, and I sometimes bag. I pretty much do everyone's job when they don't show up on time. If you're sorting AND bagging then you're definitely not slinging out as many packages as our sorters are.

They just would NEVER have the time to bag their own bins. They need designated baggers to do that.
 

drazzy93

Well-Known Member
Okey dokey then.

Quit your bitching, stretch.

Seems like you're the one who's bitching about bitching. The point of this thread was to find out if I could interact with my sups like that, and lo and behold I see now that I've done nothing wrong. I had a lot of fun holding up my sorting aisle just to take a break today though. It was nice getting to sit on my ass for 10 minutes as opposed to 15 seconds in between sorts.

Believe me, I have nothing to bitch over
 

cosmo1

Perhaps.
Staff member
Seems like you're the one who's bitching about bitching. The point of this thread was to find out if I could interact with my sups like that, and lo and behold I see now that I've done nothing wrong. I had a lot of fun holding up my sorting aisle just to take a break today though. It was nice getting to sit on my ass for 10 minutes as opposed to 15 seconds in between sorts.

Believe me, I have nothing to bitch over

How about an answer. Four months here or a year.

And, how about you thought all your supervisors were really nice until they were really mean?

And how about should you stick around to be a driver or should you become a PT supe?



How about stop the crap and find another job?
 

Northbaypkg

20 NDA stops daily
I refuse to bow to anyone...FT supervisor or not. Drazzy, I say stick to your guns - be polite but fair. Nearly everyone in lower management and worse supervisor roles, are having bad days/nights at this point. Everyone handles pressure differently. This is definitely one of the worst peaks I can remember, it's my 15th. It's just another peak, first ever peak for UPS!

Even worse than 2013? I thought nothing compared to that. Performance wise, my hub is almost matching 2013. But personally work wise, it's nowhere near as bad as 2013.
 

By The Book

Well-Known Member
What is pretty special is a 7 person sort full of sorters who double as baggers. At my small sorts the sorters sort, and the baggers bag. I sometimes sort, and I sometimes bag. I pretty much do everyone's job when they don't show up on time. If you're sorting AND bagging then you're definitely not slinging out as many packages as our sorters are.

They just would NEVER have the time to bag their own bins. They need designated baggers to do that.
I have an idea that may help you not have pain in your knees. Go to your shift supervisor and tell him/her that you are having pain in your knees from the "repetitive motion" of bending down for those lower bins. Suggest that you do all the top bins , just not those low bins. There's another nagger close to you so this shouldn't be dismissed by your supervisor. I've done your job before and it's a pain to be in that position. I also used to have to reach into one of those rolling bins that could hold a lot of smalls and my lower back would kill me. I suggested they make a false bottom inside the bin and I didn't have to bend down to the point where my back would hurt anymore.
 
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