people quittting

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

What happened to all the drivers that were above you when you got seniority 27 years ago?

For the most part they worked their 30 years and retired with full pensions.

 

[Bottom rung]

Wanna keep employees? Treat them like humans. Simple as that. Everyone is so quick to point out that the young one's are lazy whiners, it's not that way here. Harrasment and the enormous work load is what leads to turnover here.

 

[onewithedd]

Could it possibly be VERY POOR training? Day 1,2 & 3, here load this ONE truck it's pretty straight forward. Look at this little label it's called a spa label tells you the route and where to put it. day 4 your on your own with these 3 trucks. Day 5. You wanna explain why you had 11 mis-loads this is unacceptable, you need to do better!!! Huh! I wonder why so much turnover?

This company has absolutely NO Leadership left from the top down!

 

[Box Ox]

Wanna keep employees? Treat them like humans. Simple as that. Everyone is so quick to point out that the young one's are lazy whiners, it's not that way here. Harrasment and the enormous work load is what leads to turnover here.

When ORION hit my center, routes got much heavier and loaders got hit that much harder. Don't think it'll be going back to how it was just a few years ago. And that's probably the idea. Can cut routes and save big $$ by not having to pay benefits.

 

[FrigidFTSup]

I am curious to what the "COST" is.
UPS doesn't do drug tests.
UPS doesn't do background checks.
They advertise a little, have a group of people walk the building.
those who come back get hired.
HR person gets paid the same....
Don't tell me the "paper work" or they should cut back on warning letters, lol.

They factor in the training costs and the cost of paying them in their first 30 days.

 

[FrigidFTSup]

Could it possibly be VERY POOR training? Day 1,2 & 3, here load this ONE truck it's pretty straight forward. Look at this little label it's called a spa label tells you the route and where to put it. day 4 your on your own with these 3 trucks. Day 5. You wanna explain why you had 11 mis-loads this is unacceptable, you need to do better!!! Huh! I wonder why so much turnover?

AMEN. We aren't allowed to code anybody as training. Even on their first day. They tie our hands and set new guys up for failure.

 

[Returntosender]

They factor in the training costs and the cost of paying them in their first 30 days.

You should ask around and see the cost for airport background check costs. If those hires quit UPS lost some buku bucks

 

[FrigidFTSup]

You should ask around and see the cost for airport background check costs. If those hires quit UPS lost some buku bucks

Depends on the badge needed. A larger airport will require a SIDA which is 55 bucks a piece.

 

[HardknocksUPSer]

Wanna keep employees? Treat them like humans. Simple as that. Everyone is so quick to point out that the young one's are lazy whiners, it's not that way here. Harrasment and the enormous work load is what leads to turnover here.

It's like the marines, my center manager told me as a seasonal "we don't need many, just a few good men"

 

[Returntosender]

Depends on the badge needed. A larger airport will require a SIDA which is 55 bucks a piece.

I think that's just the finger print charges, the FBI background is larger amount.

 

[FrigidFTSup]

I think that's just the finger print charges, the FBI background is larger amount.

No that's all in the fee for the airport. FBI doesn't run the background checks, TSA does.

 

[10 point]

There has always been a high turnover rate in the major Hubs.

Not so much, in the small centers.


Despite other opinions....

Now, it's a generational thing.


Kids these days, don't (or have ever had to) work.


5 years ago, the company still had a "clean in and out" policy for cell phones.

(for part-timers)

Now.... part-timers will quit, if they can't check it every 5 minutes.



-Bug-

47-50% turnover rate on our (small extended center) preload this year.

 

[10 point]

Depends on the badge needed. A larger airport will require a SIDA54 which is 55 bucks a piece.

Plus the time on the clock for the employee to get cleared.

 

[FrigidFTSup]

Plus the time on the clock for the employee to get cleared.

Yes, but we're still not talking about much more than 55. The actual processing and paperwork takes only about 20 more minutes.

 

[Mr Shifter]

Plus the time on the clock for the employee to get cleared.

Wat? We have to go on our own time.

 

[10 point]

Yes, but we're still not talking about much more than 55. The actual processing and paperwork takes only about 20 more minutes.

We had to go out of town to get fingerprinted.

Wat? We have to go on our own time.

We get paid. It's not a DOT exam. It's what the company requires to run the shuttles to airports. Any driver (ft pkg car) can drive it but if the co requires the certification then we get paid just like becoming a hazmat responder...the training is paid for.

 

[speedbug577]

They factor in the training costs and the cost of paying them in their first 30 days.

I'm curious if they decide to stay past 30 days do they not get paid? Sure they do, so how does that affect high turnover rate costs?

 

[brownmonster]

As of the first of the year I will be the #1 seniority package car driver in my center.

Has it really been almost 27 years?

I'll have 27 next year. Might crack the top 10.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

I'll have 27 next year. Might crack the top 10.

We have very, very few who work beyond 30.

 

[brownmonster]

We have very, very few who work beyond 30.

We had a big hiring spree from 1985 to 90.