Police Brutality & Executions

[oldngray]

Police reports also said officers on the scene performed CPR; more discipline to come.

But he wasn't charged until the video showed up.

Every shooting gets investigated so it is very possible he would have been charged even without the video. The video just pressured them to charge him quicker without looking for more evidence.

 

[brownmonster]

It's a tragedy how many people are shot and killed each day over a small altercation or infraction. Sometimes even a cop is involved.

 

[superballs63]

Why use lethal force? Not like he couldn't call for backup. Or drive slowly along until the old man fell over exhausted. Or pick him up at his house a day later.

Choosing not to answer my question and just asking another answer. Cute

 

[superballs63]

This took place in the South. 'Nuff said.

So you discriminate against people who are south of you? Interesting

 

[Catatonic]

So you discriminate against people who are south of you? Interesting

I think he was talking about St Louis and Staten Island.

 

[oldngray]

I think he was talking about St Louis and Staten Island.

He is almost as far north as ricky so almost the whole US is "South" for him.

 

[soberups]

I agree, but just for the sake of argument, why get up and run after you've been tazed? The tazer is the last non-lethal weapon an officer has, after which point comes the lethal one.

Its a moot question. Regardless of his reasons for running, there is no justification for shooting an unarmed person in the back when they have not committed a violent felony.

 

[wkmac]

I'm so proud to live in a country where a broken tail light can conclude with a death sentence.

"Merica, "friend" Yeah!

 

[moreluck]

Whatever happened to "Stop or I'll shoot" ? Then when they didn't they were shot in the leg, brought down and if it was not right, they lived to sue later.
Police have target practice, they should all be capable of a leg shot.

 

[wkmac]

But he wasn't charged until the video showed up.

Thus why I'm such a huge advocate of cameras and filming police. Cameras can also justify police action as well so it is a 2 way street IMO.

 

[oldngray]

In the majority of cases the camera supports the police side of a story so it is definitely to their benefit to have cameras.

 

[wkmac]

The man is clearly unarmed so why not shoot for a leg at least. The real question for me is what and how are these officers trained and then what are they told on a daily basis? Too many people are being shot starting from the most minor infractions. How does it escalate to this point and what is the thinking process, a decision tree if you will, of when the weapon comes out and the trigger is pulled?

 

[oldngray]

The man is clearly unarmed so why not shoot for a leg at least. The real question for me is what and how are these officers trained and then what are they told on a daily basis? Too many people are being shot starting from the most minor infractions. How does it escalate to this point and what is the thinking process, a decision tree if you will, of when the weapon comes out and the trigger is pulled?

If an officer is forced to shoot he shoots for center of mass. Shooting for a leg is wrong and difficult to even attempt.

 

[wkmac]

In the majority of cases the camera supports the police side of a story so it is definitely to their benefit to have cameras.

And that is what perplexes me in that police and police unions along with political persons and factions oppose such cameras. From what I've read, where cameras and sound recording are present, both bad actions by officers and false reports on officers drop dramatically. Does the fact that both sides of the coin know they are on film and thus act more accordingly?

 

[wkmac]

If an officer is forced to shoot he shoots for center of mass. Shooting for a leg is wrong and difficult to even attempt.

Thus the training question.

 

[oldngray]

Thus the training question.

Training? How so?

 

[Operational needs]

This took place in the South. 'Nuff said.

So because one is born and/or grew up in the South that automatically makes them prejudiced/racist? I'm going to have to inform all the White people I know who have mixed raced children of this. I guess they didn't get the memo. Or all the White Southerners who have fought for equal rights. Or even just the decent people who know it's wrong.

 

[Catatonic]

Training? How so?

Today's training - Don't go round killing peeps for no good reason.

 

[soberups]

Whatever happened to "Stop or I'll shoot" ? Then when they didn't they were shot in the leg, brought down and if it was not right, they lived to sue later.
Police have target practice, they should all be capable of a leg shot.

Ummmm......no.

A firearm is deadly force, and should only be used in situations when deadly force is legally justified.

In such situations, you either shoot to the center of mass until the threat is neutralized or you don't shoot at all.

Shooting fleeing suspects in the legs only works on "Adam-12." In real life, it is extremely difficult if not impossible, and it jeopardizes the lives of any innocent person who is within range of a missed shot or a ricochet.

 

[soberups]

The man is clearly unarmed so why not shoot for a leg at least. The real question for me is what and how are these officers trained and then what are they told on a daily basis? Too many people are being shot starting from the most minor infractions. How does it escalate to this point and what is the thinking process, a decision tree if you will, of when the weapon comes out and the trigger is pulled?

A leg shot would have been no more justifiable under these circumstances than 6 shots to the back. Lethal force is lethal force.