Serf
Well-Known Member
Birds of a feather flock together my friend.
Populist Indeed!
- Thread starter Meat
- Start date
Russia is talking about a post-west alignment. Whom do you think they have in mind to be that world leader?
Serf
Well-Known Member
The correct response now is to echo and amplify. Trump needs to call for a summit with Putin. Hold it on neutral territory. Make it the geopolitical event of the 21st century. Set bold goals: full normalization of relations, military, political and economic cooperation against militant Islam, restrictions on “defensive” missiles deployed along Russia’s border, agreements by USA to respect the sovereignty of Crimea, Ukraine and other former satellites, and mutual non interference in domestic political affairs. The two largest Christian nations on the planet should come together.
Catatonic
Nine Lives
Me too!
We usually call ourselves Libertarians.
Serf
Well-Known Member
Categorically. Libertarians have some good talking points. Republicans have nothing left to "conserve." And Democrats no longer have the backs of the blue collar.
Reforms but for whose benefit ? He has set out to destroy banking and consumer protection laws. He has filled key cabinet positions with multi billionaires who got rich buying up properties during the recession that the absence of law created. He abolished an important environmental regulation just last week. As a result coal strippers can dump their sediment ponds into any stream they want untreated including those that feed public water supplies. And you conservatives believe that he has the interests of the average American first and foremost. It's reminds me of the old Doobie Brothers song. "What a fool believes".
Until the worst case scenario is actually happening we'll just have to take your word that it's going to happen.
The last vestiges of middle-class prosperity are clearly under assault.
Those that have nothing must cling to hope at the expense of objective reality.
It's not necessarily your fault, but you have fallen victim to a classic case of bait-and-switch.
MrFedEx
Engorged Member
It's all about getting religion back into schools and PROFIT. As someone else said, I can hardly wait until the charter Islamic schools start.
DeVos is utterly unqualified.
Trump's 38% voting block is still hanging on to Trump's promise to make Christianity America's official religion return us to segregation and give them back their 1950's style unskilled factory job. It will take them a year or so to catch on to the realization that the whole damn thing is a lie but when they do and they will it will be end of the Trump presidency and the moderate GOP's are clearly worried that it might just cost them their Congressional majority for many years.
ROFLMAO!!!
abused.crr
Well-Known Member
Lol the democrat party is in shambles. The party cares more about a penis being allowed to urinate in a sit down toilet than weather or not a child leaves the 12th grade educated. And the moderate republicans are shaking because they care more about the flow of cheap labor flooding across the border than they do about a middle class family paying their health care premiums. I voted on November 8th with my middle finger.
MrFedEx
Engorged Member
Bingo.
MrFedEx
Engorged Member
So you voted for Trump based on the Michael Moore theory?
abused.crr
Well-Known Member
I don't know what the Michael Moore theory is but I'm sure it has something to do with a bunch of racist white guys that came running out of the woods yelling trump trump trump! The same racist white guys that voted Obama in 2008. I'm that guy. You know I'm white, my wife is white, my children are white( darker than me though cause they're adopted) but they act white, my house is white, and I wear whitey tighties. I'm tired of defending the stereotype. But I am intelligent enough to know what a superdelegate is and how stupid a registered democrat has to be to believe their primary vote mattered. As a registered republican my vote counted and I got to tell Jeb and the boys to go friend... themselves. It was great to see the end to two political dynasties, the Bushes and the Clintons.
Let's me know when your life gets better because of Trump. I get that you're "in his camp" and you like that he's shaking the establishment, but if you're a working stiff like most around here, he's really done nothing about your interests.
1 month in and already folks in coal country are a lot happier. Union leaders are a lot happier. If the Dems had a spine in 2010 I'd still be working for a unionized Express. Plenty figured out before this election that Dems talk a big game, but aren't big on jobs. You may ultimately be right about Trump, but it was your party's inaction that drove quite a few Democrats to give Trump at least a chance.
I remember a lot of Democrats anticipating sweeping changes like (card check, rising minimum wage, etc.) and being disappointed. A president Trump backed by Republican majorities in House and Senate will be far more disappointing. It's not even a question.
abused.crr
Well-Known Member
the only national "a lot" that's happened over the last eight years is the 1042 net loss elected positions that the democrats have suffered. People are slowly waking up to both sides of the establishment. And as a working stiff, as a truck driver; I do believe that stopping mass immigration will keep my wages higher. If you are in favor of our current immigration than you and Fred need to go bowling together.
Another dyed in the wool conservative but in the end you'll be signing up for Social security Medicare, Medicaid when you're in a nursing home and your money's gone. Unemployment compensation when you lose your job through no fault of your own. You know, the programs we evil communist, socialist pinko progressive's fought the Republicans tooth and nail to get passed. Your wages going up? Not if you are employed by nonunion X or an XGround contractor. They and they alone decide your wages. Likewise we damn near got Pudzner as labor secretary who publicly stated his goal to eliminate the federal minimum wage had 60 federal wage and labor law violations on his resume and was quoted as calling blue collar workers as was pointed out earlier....' the worst of the worst". You're like Van. You talk the talk but won't walk the walk. You don't have to accept those federal benefits if you don't believe in them. And don't give me that " well I paid into them BS" If your conservative convictions are as strong as you profess then put them into actions not just words.