Keep trying to what? Go back to Clinton and Obama? Never did. Trump works for the Russians. Clinton and Obama did not.
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Keep trying to what? Go back to Clinton and Obama? Never did. Trump works for the Russians. Clinton and Obama did not.
newfie
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you did say at that scale? did you miss their trading away our uranium rights, sucking up to the Russians , attacking Romney when he identified the Russians as our biggest world threat, cow towing to the Russians, looking the other way when the Russians were interfering in our elections?
that is corruption at the highest level and scale and it occurred under Obama and Clinton.
None of it was a President or Presidential candidate working directly for the Russians. And if it were attributable to corruption, the Republicans would have prosecuted.
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
Move on loser
Old Man Jingles
Rat out of a cage
Take your own advice!
BakerMayfield2018
Fight the power.
I’m ready to go off on someone. Already got it all typed out. U wanna be that person?
Old Man Jingles
Rat out of a cage
Bring it you Motherf*****r!
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
Lol.
He's talking about Romney FFS.
Mormons are so 2011. Big Love is over, Paxton is dead, time to move on.
moreluck
golden ticket member
Plenty of opportunity to see Paxton.....They re-run Twister too much!!!
You seem confident of that. No proof yet but we do know Obama let Putin take the Crimean Peninsula, but asked that he be patient until after his last election. Your vaunted president was a spineless milquetoast, and couldn't wear Trump's jockstrap. He was the reason Trump had to go into Syria in the first place and why the Russians are there now. As a matter of fact most of the Middle East melted down under Obama's stewardship. What a legacy. And that jug eared twerp has the gall to take credit for this economy while he and Michelle hobnob with billionaires. You can bray at Trump all you want, if he had been president the previous 8 years the world would be in much better condition. And he's not even my favorite Republican but damn he gets things done! MAGA!!!
You, sir, are being irrational.
Think about what’s come out this weekend. That the FBI opened an investigation on whether the president of the US was/is an agent of Russia.
You can claim “witch-hunt” and “deep state” all you want, but these are career agent all up and down the political spectrum looking at the president and concluding that something is not right.
What if we agree (I certainly don’t but for the sake of illustration will for a moment) that the establishment was out to prevent Trump from winning. Let’s say that the only evidence they had against him was a concocted Steele dossier paid for by the Democrats.
But in 2017, all that changes. Imagine how incredible it is for all these “deep state” actors when Trump doesn’t have to be framed. They don’t have to take comments out of context and decipher what meetings during the campaign mean for the narrative of their insidious plot.
And why do they not have to twist and shape the president’s words and actions? Because they are out in front for all to see. Donald Trump is doing one of two things: putting his own interests first or putting Russian interests first.
The other possibility is that it’s always been a legitimate investigation with checks and balances, warrants and oversight. Either way, the president has done himself no favors in how investigators see his Russia dealings.
That's the NY Times interpretation of the FBI investigation. An investigation that went nowhere. And we now know that FBI and DOJ management, partisan Clinton supporters, were involved in trying to bring down Trump's presidency. You're going to have to do better than this to prove Trump did anything. So far no evidence, but a lot of wishful thinking.
oldngray
nowhere special
an investigation that was an attempt to find dirt on Trump found nothing.
newfie
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which you libs somehow try to make sound ominous .
meanwhile conservatives see a corrupt fbi leadership group that has let their own political bias , bias that was clearly demonstrated and revealed through their text messages affect their actions.
they see that those text messages have now somehow been lost by the Muller team .
they see that the investigation started based on the now debunked dossier provided to the FBI by politically motivated and linked sources including John McCain.
they see politically motivated actions taken by the top level of the FBI leadership group.
they see a corrupt secretive FISA court system that has no accountability at any level.
they see Muller who has been part of that corrupt FBI leadership group in the past and who is good friends with Comey.
The same Comey who has been proven to be a lap dog republican of the Obama / Clinton group.
the same Comey who wrote an opinion absolving Hillary way before he ever interviewed her.
the same comey who gave out immunity to the Clinton group like they were concert tickets.
They see that Muller didn't try to hire a good mix of investigators from both sides of the political spectrum but instead hired 18 democrats many of who have been active supporters of the democrats in the past.
and thus this is another example to conservatives of the Corruption that infects the highest level of FBI leadership.
thanks to the MSM we have the pleasure of hearing all this political posturing and overstated allegations continuously in the news.
we don't hear anything from your liberal lapdog news sources about this corrupt FISA court system and corrupt FBI leadership group.
its just not politically convinient to discuss those topics. investigatory ethics be damned we have a political opponent to take down by any means necessary.
It is astounding how the general public has been conditioned to accept corruption.
We know that a) the president openly admitted he fired Comey due to the Russian investigation (please explain how this is not considered obstruction) b) the president and his representatives lied about the nature of the Trump tower meeting with a Russian operative AND the fact that the president personally authored his son’s response regarding the meeting c) the president let his agent deceive congress on his behalf in regards to the construction of a Trump property in Moscow (ten years ago, this would have been an impeachable offense) d) Trump’s campaign manager shared polling info with a Russian intelligence agent (standard operating procedure?) e) Trump attempted to conceal the content of his discussions with Putin on numerous occasions.
These factual circumstances aren’t what you would consider “ominous”?
newfie
Well-Known Member
.....Ratcliffe called the Baker transcript leak "selective," adding that the full transcript of the Oct. 18 interview, which is undergoing a classification review by the FBI and the Justice Department, reveals "that in May 2017, political bias infected senior FBI leadership, and emotion -- not evidence -- drove their decision making."...
...The Justice Department inspector general concluded in a report last year that Comey was grossly insubordinate in 2016 when he recommended against criminal charges in the Hillary Clinton email investigation, a responsibility that fell to his then-boss, Attorney General Loretta Lynch.
Republican uncovered secret FBI debate over Trump motivation for Comey firing during House questioning
...The Justice Department inspector general concluded in a report last year that Comey was grossly insubordinate in 2016 when he recommended against criminal charges in the Hillary Clinton email investigation, a responsibility that fell to his then-boss, Attorney General Loretta Lynch.
Republican uncovered secret FBI debate over Trump motivation for Comey firing during House questioning
newfie
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30 years of the Clintons will do that to you. what concern do you have about the fake dossier and corruption displayed in the FBI's leadership group?
if that was part of an organized effort to squash the investigation which it did not then you might have an argument. the facts are proving that comey was the ringleader of a corrupt fbi leadership group that favored the dems and deserved to be fired.[/QUOTE]
not true , that meeting has never been proven to be anymore then what they have said it was. too much CNN for you?
again not true, if you're going to fake outrage at someone else's alleged lies then you really need to come in touch with the truth yourself. Trump had nothing to do with Cohens testimony. Cohen lied on his own.
check you facts your statement is again incorrect.
presidents routinely have off the record conversations with other world leaders including putin. its only important to you liberals this time because of the fake narrative you are trying to spin here.
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what concerns do you have about a corrupt FBI leadership group or are you willing to accept that type of corruption if it helps you politically?
@newfie Putin in ot on BC. His handlers must be very pleased.
действительно очень доволен! такой верный товарищ!
