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MrFedEx

Engorged Member

Don't come to any conclusions yet. Mueller did not clear Trump of obstruction, and Mueller team lawyers are saying now that Mueller might have been intentionally vague, as in leaving it up to the AG and/or Congress to make their respective determinations.

Since Barr is a political appointee, and wrote a 19 page opinion piece about how the president was immune from prosecution just prior to his appointment, one has to suspect that Barr was doing exactly what Team Trump expected him to do.

It is the responsibility of Congress to make the final determination.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Don't come to any conclusions yet. Mueller did not clear Trump of obstruction, and Mueller team lawyers are saying now that Mueller might have been intentionally vague, as in leaving it up to the AG and/or Congress to make their respective determinations.

Since Barr is a political appointee, and wrote a 19 page opinion piece about how the president was immune from prosecution just prior to his appointment, one has to suspect that Barr was doing exactly what Team Trump expected him to do.

It is the responsibility of Congress to make the final determination.
Of course now that it's come out that it was a set-up by people in our various intelligence and law enforcement agencies to get Trump removed, there was really never a valid reason to investigate Trump to begin with. So was there obstruction? Not hardly. You have to have a legitimate investigation to begin with to obstruct it.
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
Of course now that it's come out that it was a set-up by people in our various intelligence and law enforcement agencies to get Trump removed, there was really never a valid reason to investigate Trump to begin with. So was there obstruction? Not hardly. You have to have a legitimate investigation to begin with to obstruct it.
Nothing in your post is true.
Not surprising.
 

bbsam

Moderator
Staff member
Of course now that it's come out that it was a set-up by people in our various intelligence and law enforcement agencies to get Trump removed, there was really never a valid reason to investigate Trump to begin with. So was there obstruction? Not hardly. You have to have a legitimate investigation to begin with to obstruct it.
Are you interested in seeing Mueller’s work or are you certain that since you believe it was erroneously begin, nothing is there?

Because if Mueller’s work is shown and Barr grossly misrepresented it, what does that say about Barr?
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Are you interested in seeing Mueller’s work or are you certain that since you believe it was erroneously begin, nothing is there?

Because if Mueller’s work is shown and Barr grossly misrepresented it, what does that say about Barr?
You're telling me that if his work is misrepresented by Barr, that Mueller wouldn't hold a press conference and say so? Or one of his team, who are all Democrats, most of whom donated to Hillary's and other Democrat campaigns? Yes let's see the report, but let's also put out there that Barr is legally required to redact some of it. His hands are tied on that but that won't stop many Democrats from saying he's hiding something. But Lisa Page said under oath they had no real evidence against Trump when they started investigating him. So a special counsel was enacted with no evidence. So what exactly did Trump obstruct and how did he do it?
 
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bbsam

Moderator
Staff member
You're telling me that if his work is misrepresented by Barr, that Mueller wouldn't hold a press conference and say so? Or one of his team, who are all Democrats, most of whom donated to Hillary's and other Democrat campaigns? Yes let's see the report, but let's also put out there that Barr is legally required to redact some of it. His hands are tied on that but that won stop many Democrats from saying he's hiding something. But Lisa Page said under oath they had no real evidence against Trump when they started investigating him. So a special counsel was enacted with no evidence. So what exactly did Trump obstruct and how did he do it?
How many press conferences has Mueller held?
 
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