President Trump

[floridays]

Maybe that was my point.

Then your point is invalid and not based on fact or law. Try again.

 

[It will be fine]

I am not in Congress or the SCOTUS so it doesn't matter.
I think existing children born in the USA to illegal aliens prior to the implementation date of the law are grandfathered. That could be the spice that allows the Libs to vote for the bill and it could take care of the DACA kids as well.
This is what Trump has been saying for the last couple of years.

DACA kids weren’t born here. That’s the problem. They were brought here as children.

 

[Old Man Jingles]

DACA kids weren’t born here. That’s the problem. They were brought here as children.

I said 'and' which means the DACA kids could be included within the same bill.
Everyone wants both types of kids clarified and citizenship defined.
Addressing both in the same bill could get to a consensus decision and Trump will sign it.

 

[bbsam]

His parents can get a Mexican passport, but not an American one. So who are they subject to? Sometimes the obvious answer is the right one.

Maybe you should read the WSJ article I referenced. Before you do that, figure out what the word “jurisdiction” means.

 

[Old Man Jingles]

Maybe you should read the WSJ article I referenced. Before you do that, figure out what the word “jurisdiction” means.

Once anyone sets foot on American soil (other than Diplomats), they are under USA jurisdiction.

 

[floridays]

DACA kids weren’t born here. That’s the problem. They were brought here as children.

Illegally.
I find it hard to confer citizenship and the attendant rights that attach. Obama really dumped a yuge pile of when he did something he said he wasn't authorized to do Constitutionally. But he's your guy.

 

[floridays]

Maybe you should read the WSJ article I referenced. Before you do that, figure out what the word “jurisdiction” means.

He did, with the best example, a US passport. They are under the jurisdiction of the law and can be held accountable for civil wrongs, same as you would be in Italy. Are you an Italian national? I think you should understand the definition of jurisdiction.
Are you Franco Harris?

 

[It will be fine]

Illegally.
I find it hard to confer citizenship and the attendant rights that attach. Obama really dumped a yuge pile of when he did something he said he wasn't authorized to do Constitutionally. But he's your guy.

It’s the economy, stupid. The GDP grows with a growing workforce. Children raised and educated here should work here and add to society. If you can’t compete with them, that’s on you.

 

[bottomups]

No, he is stopping an unconstitutional action with an executive order, which honestly, I’m fine with. Birthright citizens is one of the biggest scams on the American tax payer the administrative welfare state has ever perpetrated.

And you know this how?

I have no problem with amending the 14th. Just think it should be done without executive order.

 

[floridays]

It’s the economy, stupid. The GDP grows with a growing workforce. Children raised and educated here should work here and add to society. If you can’t compete with them, that’s on you.

Respond to the content, you clowns always try to lead someone down a rabbit hole.

 

[BrownArmy]

It would be 9-0 against Trump in the SC.

The Constitution would need to be amended, and luckily there’s a process for that.

No serious Constitutional scholars buy what Trump is selling.

He can’t do it with an EO, and the SC doesn’t make law or amend the Constitution.

 

[brownmonster]

Formulate a legitimate argument and come back to me. First and second amendments were original parts of the Constitution. The Constitution was amended (14th amendment) for a singular purpose, to address how states would deal with freedmen, period.

I would but now I realize I don't really care. Go Pack!

 

[Old Man Jingles]

... the SCOTUS doesn’t make law or amend the Constitution.

It has under liberal leadership and majority.
And probaly under Conservative leadership.
I don't know of an instance when the SCOTUS made law or amended the Constitution when a Constitutionalist Justice(s) could keep that from happening.

 

[floridays]

I would but now I realize I don't really care. Go Pack!

Go Pack!

 

[vantexan]

No one is giving you a raise because they can hire someone else for less money. There are no jobs, they are all filled. You are worth less tomorrow than today.

Got it?

You are worthless. Got it.

 

[vantexan]

Once anyone sets foot on American soil (other than Diplomats), they are under USA jurisdiction.

But as citizens of another country they have allegiance to that country. If you don't believe that go into an area with a lot of Mexican immigrants and count the Mexican flags.

 

[Old Man Jingles]

But as citizens of another country they have allegiance to that country. If you don't believe that go into an area with a lot of Mexican immigrants and count the Mexican flags.

Maybe but that's irrelevant.

 

[vantexan]

Immigrants are less likely than the general population to commit crimes. NEXT!

And yet our Federal prisons are full of illegals who've committed murder, smuggled drugs, raped, you name it.

 

[vantexan]

Maybe but that's irrelevant.

Still comes down to the intent of the writers of the amendment. If it's in the Congressional record what was intended then there's a legal basis for consideration.

 

[Old Man Jingles]

And yet our Federal prisons are full of illegals who've committed murder, smuggled drugs, raped, you name it.

Not full without a lot of help from our citizens, albeit mostly Afro-American.