Raise in new contract

[I have NOT been lurking]

Congress can't, they can address the RLA. There is a small loophole that would allow biden himself to do it, but I have no idea how he can do that and save face.

Too senile to care

 

[I have NOT been lurking]

DOT cards aren't going to help if they don't have people with CDLs. They can have as many package drivers as they want to replace us, there'll be no packages to deliver.

Someone tell her to use Swifty Swift and Welfare Express

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

Someone tell her to use Swifty Swift and Welfare Express

Fedex don't know it's a friggin' trailer!!

 

[I have NOT been lurking]

Fedex don't know it's a friggin' trailer!!

Bonehead keeps showing FedEx doubles in ditches. Kinda worried I may appear on there and shame Chocolate Express

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

Bonehead keeps showing FedEx doubles in ditches. Kinda worried I may appear on there and shame Chocolate Express

I'd be terrified! Lol

 

[Trucker Clock]

Congress can't, they can address the RLA. There is a small loophole that would allow biden himself to do it, but I have no idea how he can do that and save face.

That would be a huge gamble for UPS to take. Not bargain in good faith, make us strike and expect Biden to invoke the Taft-Hartley Act.

All over what they can afford, but don’t want to, give us.

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

That would be a huge gamble for UPS to take. Not bargain in good faith, make us strike and expect Biden to invoke the Taft-Hartley Act.

All over what they can afford, but don’t want to, give us.

I don't see the union violating any good faith bargaining laws between now and the 31st. I'm sure they're well aware of the consequences.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

There is a small loophole that would allow biden himself to do it, but I have no idea how he can do that and save face.

Who's going to criticize him for it?
The media had his back when he forced the rail unions to work. It wouldn't be any different.

 

[PT Car Washer]

If Bidens economy begins to tank I just wonder what he could do to force us in. Guess he could allow the company to terminate anyone who doesn't report to work.??

Encourage a 30 or 60 or 90 day cooling off period with intense negotiating. Could be the best outcome for Union members. The RR workers got a 25% raise.

 

[I have NOT been lurking]

I don't see the union violating any good faith bargaining laws between now and the 31st. I'm sure they're well aware of the consequences.

Expect kosher lightning events

 

[TheWeasel]

Encourage a 30 or 60 or 90 day cooling off period with intense negotiating. Could be the best outcome for Union members. The RR workers got a 25% raise.

RR workers didn't really care about the pay, they wanted better sick leave. Which is why the contract that was forced on them was voted down.

That said, Taft-Hartley doesn't allow congress to impose a contract. Only the cooling down period. If UPS wants to plead with Biden to invoke it all the more power to them. The cooling off period would end the week before peak season starts up. We wouldn't be forced into a contract and would be within our rights to strike then... the week before Thanksgiving. It would not end well for UPS and the union would have even more leverage.

 

[KearsargeCoop]

Good stuff on the last 3 or 4 pages. Nice work fellas. This thread has had many peaks and valleys.

 

[DELACROIX]

Encourage a 30 or 60 or 90 day cooling off period with intense negotiating. Could be the best outcome for Union members. The RR workers got a 25% raise.

RR workers didn't really care about the pay, they wanted better sick leave. Which is why the contract that was forced on them was voted down.

That said, Taft-Hartley doesn't allow congress to impose a contract. Only the cooling down period. If UPS wants to plead with Biden to invoke it all the more power to them. The cooling off period would end the week before peak season starts up. We wouldn't be forced into a contract and would be within our rights to strike then... the week before Thanksgiving. It would not end well for UPS and the union would have even more leverage.

“No cooling off period”

The deadline is set….

No guarantee of an extension even if O’Brien shakes hands…

Seriously..we seen this games before..UPS is stonewalling.

The outstanding Supplements have to be in place before the master goes for vote.

Remember the 2008 Contract they got an agreement 7 months before the deadline because of the federal mandate and penalties over underfunded pension plans (Central)..

Go one is listening to Biden anymore… the feds will not intervene period. The Company is playing Russian Roulette if that is their gameplay.

 

[PT Car Washer]

RR workers didn't really care about the pay, they wanted better sick leave. Which is why the contract that was forced on them was voted down.

That said, Taft-Hartley doesn't allow congress to impose a contract. Only the cooling down period. If UPS wants to plead with Biden to invoke it all the more power to them. The cooling off period would end the week before peak season starts up. We wouldn't be forced into a contract and would be within our rights to strike then... the week before Thanksgiving. It would not end well for UPS and the union would have even more leverage.

Don't care about a 25% pay hike? I don't believe it. We don't have paid sick days.

 

[Wontmake9.5]

Ups doesn’t seem to care. Strike time!!

 

[Trucker Clock]

RR workers didn't really care about the pay, they wanted better sick leave. Which is why the contract that was forced on them was voted down.

That said, Taft-Hartley doesn't allow congress to impose a contract. Only the cooling down period. If UPS wants to plead with Biden to invoke it all the more power to them. The cooling off period would end the week before peak season starts up. We wouldn't be forced into a contract and would be within our rights to strike then... the week before Thanksgiving. It would not end well for UPS and the union would have even more leverage.

Incorrect. The Taft-Hartley Act does not allow Congress to impose a cooling down period.

 

[ManInBrown]

Are they negotiating this week? Just waiting for UPS next offer? Or what’s going on

 

[Emergency Conditions]

Don't care about a 25% pay hike? I don't believe it. We don't have paid sick days.

I have paid sick days...

 

[nWo]

A lot of the rail workers did eventually get granted sick days.

Most unionized US rail workers now have new sick leave

More than 60% of U.S. unionized railroad workers at major railroads are now are covered by new sick leave agreements, a trade group said Monday.

www.reuters.com

US rail companies grant paid sick days after public pressure in win for unions

Leading railroads give four paid sick days after years in which workers weren’t allowed to call in sick the morning of their shift

www.theguardian.com

 

[PT Car Washer]

A lot of the rail workers did eventually get granted sick days.

Most unionized US rail workers now have new sick leave

More than 60% of U.S. unionized railroad workers at major railroads are now are covered by new sick leave agreements, a trade group said Monday.

www.reuters.com

US rail companies grant paid sick days after public pressure in win for unions

Leading railroads give four paid sick days after years in which workers weren’t allowed to call in sick the morning of their shift

www.theguardian.com

And after our contract is settled, I bet we still don't have paid sick days.