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a little ditty on the cross:
Dan, like his brother, Philip Berrigan, and his close friends Dorothy Day from the Catholic Worker Movement and Trappist monk Thomas Merton, led a life defined by the Christian call to bear the cross. This is the central call of the Christian life. It is one few Christians achieve. The bearing of the cross, in Christian theology, is counterintuitive. It says that the “the last shall be first, and the first last.” It demands nonviolence. It holds fast to justice. It stands with the oppressed, those who Dan’s friend, the Jesuit priest Ignacio Ellacuria, who was murdered by the death squads in El Salvador, called “the crucified people of history.” It binds adherents to moral law. It calls on them to defy through acts of civil disobedience and noncompliance with state laws, when these laws, as they often do, conflict with God’s law.
If you bear the cross, you often go to jail or, in Dan’s case, federal prison for 18 months, after he, his brother and seven other religious activists in 1968 burned 378 draft files of young men—most of them African-American—about to be sent to Vietnam. The activists had manufactured homemade napalm to set the documents on fire in garbage cans in the parking lot outside the building from which they took the files. - hedges
Dan, like his brother, Philip Berrigan, and his close friends Dorothy Day from the Catholic Worker Movement and Trappist monk Thomas Merton, led a life defined by the Christian call to bear the cross. This is the central call of the Christian life. It is one few Christians achieve. The bearing of the cross, in Christian theology, is counterintuitive. It says that the “the last shall be first, and the first last.” It demands nonviolence. It holds fast to justice. It stands with the oppressed, those who Dan’s friend, the Jesuit priest Ignacio Ellacuria, who was murdered by the death squads in El Salvador, called “the crucified people of history.” It binds adherents to moral law. It calls on them to defy through acts of civil disobedience and noncompliance with state laws, when these laws, as they often do, conflict with God’s law.
If you bear the cross, you often go to jail or, in Dan’s case, federal prison for 18 months, after he, his brother and seven other religious activists in 1968 burned 378 draft files of young men—most of them African-American—about to be sent to Vietnam. The activists had manufactured homemade napalm to set the documents on fire in garbage cans in the parking lot outside the building from which they took the files. - hedges
floridays
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Jesus said that whoever came to him he would in no wise cast out,
What are Jesus commands?
floridays
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He died for me to reconcile me with his father, not any kind of political bs that you want to manipulate people with. I got it rickyb, you haven't been successful, you'd like to further a way to take more successful peoples cash away to benefit you.
thats nothing too.
thats like narcissism. youve got it totally wrong. but its interesting hearing it from someone doing it wrong.
Bearing the cross is not about the pursuit of happiness. It does not embrace the illusion of inevitable human progress. It is not about achieving wealth, celebrity or power. It entails sacrifice. It is about our neighbor. The organs of state security—in Dan’s case, the FBI—monitor and harass you. They amass huge files on your activities. They disrupt your life. And in Friday’s homily, the Rev. Stephen Kelly, evoking laughter, welcomed the FBI agents who had been “assigned here today to validate that it is Daniel Berrigan’s funeral mass so they can complete and perhaps close their files.”
Bearing the Cross
Bearing the Cross
floridays
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God died in your place, I'm telling you you have freedom from the debt of your sins if you choose to believe. I guess i'm through with my nothing.
talk is cheap.
the sooner you admit you've been doing religion wrong your whole life, the sooner you can throw up and let the old you die, so the new you can be reborn.
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This is the worst time of my long life,” he said when I interviewed him for The Nation magazine a few years ago. “I have never had such meager expectations of the system. I find those expectations verified in the paucity and shallowness every day I live.”
Yet he refused to despair. The cross, he knew, is carried even in the face of inevitable failure. This is the absurdity of faith. Martin Luther King Jr. repeatedly made reference to this reality of Christian life, saying, “When I took up the cross I recognized it’s meaning … The cross is something that you bear, and ultimately you die on.”
Bearing the Cross
Yet he refused to despair. The cross, he knew, is carried even in the face of inevitable failure. This is the absurdity of faith. Martin Luther King Jr. repeatedly made reference to this reality of Christian life, saying, “When I took up the cross I recognized it’s meaning … The cross is something that you bear, and ultimately you die on.”
Bearing the Cross
MAKAVELI
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So there was no heaven and hell before Jesus?
floridays
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Jesus was in the beginning, with his father, so there was a heaven, hell did not exist in the beginning.
zubenelgenubi
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Let's hope they don't include reading any of his teachings. In John 14:15 Jesus says "If you love me, keep my commands."
I'll list a few for your convenience:
Do to others what you would have them do to you. Matthew 7:12
But you are not to be called 'Rabbi,' for you have only one Master and you are all brothers. And do not call anyone on earth 'father,' for you have one Father, and he is in heaven. Nor are you to be called 'teacher,' for you have one Teacher, the Christ. The greatest among you will be your servant. For whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted," (Matt 23:8-12 NIV)
You are the light of the world. A city on a hill cannot be hidden. In the same way, let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven (Matt 5:14;16 NIV)
Then the King will say to those on his right, 'Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me,
(Matt 25:34-36 NIV)
My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you (John 15:12 KJV)
Just a few, feel free to read everything in red ink in Matthew, Mark, Luke or John to find the rest.
floridays
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I agree totally, the question then, if a human does these things, and I promise, I can give you a much longer list of Jesus's commands, can they gain eternal life?
Old Man Jingles
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Who are you quoting?
Old Man Jingles
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faith
Old Man Jingles
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That is not the religion ... that is the church of men.
MAKAVELI
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So where did the non believers go in the beginning?
Old Man Jingles
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And you still don’t.
im talking about floridays attempts at religion
floridays
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Still on the beach? I'm thinking he was quoting an affirmation of faith from a denomination, beyond that.. pretty scriptural.
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