Amen brother, these boomers just don't get it. Millennials are the future and the company is going to have to make some serious changes so that folks like yourself feel more empowered and appreciated.
roll away, never shown / told hand brake tightening
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That'll be enough of your judgment there boomer. I'm declaring this thread a safe space.
Passing out tissues at the door?
Poop Head
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Dont be silly. There is a box of Kleenex next to everyones carpet square. Also, there will be a raffle and the winner gets a free "weighted blanket"
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Dont worry, the carpet squares are vegan, gluten free, and fair trade. I know that was your first concern
Air Recovery
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You're absolutely right. I was new once. I made rookie mistakes.
But I never made excuses or blamed others for my failures. Because I'm a man... I owned my mistakes, grew, and have been a full time permanent driver - unlike you
Edit: Not putting the handbrake on, resulting in a rollaway which resulted in property damage and could have resulted in serious injury/death of a living being.... 100% horrible. You honestly don't deserve to be one of us if you
something so basic up. The only way it rolls away IS IF YOU DONT PUT IT IN PARK.
Redtag
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Allison makes transmissions without a parking pawl for use in trucks with far more robust parking brake systems than the pull handle in a package car. the package car OP was driving would not be equipped with a transmission without a parking pawl
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BigUnionGuy
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the hand brake is near the floor by your left foot in a pkg car.
11.19igrad
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Any accident can claim a life. It was horrible. I'm not blaming for my mistake. I'm talking about the complete lack of any training on actual deliveries and how no one wants to show you the methods in real life. No one needs to show me how to put truck in park obviously. But when you have an environment of rushing to meet production and new drivers with neglected training and practice without the production pressure, the chances of these types of accidents drastically increase. Drivers Ed is 90 days for regular cars. We get 4 days and no actual training on actual deliveries. Keep beating the dead horse about how I'm not taking responsibility. I am but I'm not the only factor in this situation. Whether I'm here or not this is a big problem. Everyone tells me ups cares less about safety from a preventative attitude. They just fire people for months and most go back. Under this contract I don't need to deserve to be one of you. It's a dead end .You're absolutely right. I was new once. I made rookie mistakes.
But I never made excuses or blamed others for my failures. Because I'm a man... I owned my mistakes, grew, and have been a full time permanent driver - unlike you
Edit: Not putting the handbrake on, resulting in a rollaway which resulted in property damage and could have resulted in serious injury/death of a living being.... 100% horrible. You honestly don't deserve to be one of us if you
Air Recovery
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That's how this place works. We get thrown into the fire, and if you survive you become one of us. My center didnt train me. Or any of the other 13 utility drivers. But me and my 3 friends stuck it out, learned quickly, and simply wanted it bad enough.
You complaining about lack of training IS BASICALLY YOU BLAMING SOMEONE ELSE FOR YOUR FAILURES
Let that sink in. Just stop. It is no ones fault that you didnt make the cut but your own. We ALL did it this way. The company doesnt have time or patience to train correctly. They shot gun us through and whoever is athletic and smart enough to figure it out and survive make it.
And you werent. Stop justifying your failure. Its ok to fail. Its not ok to place blame
burrheadd
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Then why are you still here
Redtag
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Yes, there is a cable actuated drum brake either directly behind the transmission or just in front of the rear end. Those have a parking pawl in the transmission. The transmission with no parking pawl is typically found in air brake or air over hydraulic systems
11.19igrad
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So ups bigwigs at DOT and UPS just decided ehh screw public safety we like to gamble with lives and play this macho tough guy casino game? I don't want to be out there making mistakes that have to do with this level of potential disaster. It's one thing to let new drivers figure the job out and get tougher but it's another to have a culture as a global corporation that training is an inconvenience. It's the only way countless professionals gain their credentials and career trajectory is YEARS OF TRAINING. what godforsaken crap is this? You think you're going in for a decent job and are ready to study and learn but then you realize it's just a turkey shoot and everyone can't wait to see who gets shot next. Blame is not the same as understanding what the culture of an organization is and questioning it. Your gen is not the future of ups, mine is. We question everything . Anyone who ever did anything worthwhile always has .
Air Recovery
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I never said I agreed or thought it was intelligent, it's just how it is.
Indecisi0n
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I got you.
11.19igrad
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It would be as easy as a bid sheet for 4yr+ drivers who earned a $75 daily bonus to train new drivers. New drivers are assigned a trainer for 2 weeks. Then they go and try to qualify. The current approach completely ignores the cognitive process for learning the methods in the context of their corresponding scenarios by DOING them on actual deliveires. My screw up was moving fast but not double checking truck on a hill. It was stationary for 2 minutes. No indication something was wrong. But if I had gone thru that checking on a hill exercise 10 times I wouldnt almost be able to help but check everything again. Same with tightening the brake. Even in my 3 days with a sup he never did any curbed wheels or pulling in mirror or demonstrating hills. Not once. He never corrected me on anything. Just wanted that speed that's it .
11.19igrad
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And yes common sense plays a big part and I assumed. That's on me. But they assume way too much that new drivers can just figure it out and they will just pay settlements instead of giving new drivers a few weeks training after integrad with actual drivers. That's not too much to ask. If they want to play this I don't like you game, do interviews with center sups and whoever they "like" goes to integrad. But under this 22.4 contract especially, them "liking" you means exactly nothing. It's like a cell mate been locked up for 10yrs who "likes" his young new cellmate.... Not good for the young new cellmate. Not good at all.
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