Russia Claims Ukraine Standoff Is Over

TearsInRain

IE boogeyman
Of course you can.
Nobody is going to be the first to launch nuclear weapon because they will forever be known as the last country to do so.
Are you nuts

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Babagounj

Strength through joy
The nuclear option is based on the MAD doctrine, not the nuts.

The MAD strategy was developed during the Cold War, when the U.S., USSR, and respective allies held nuclear weapons of such number and strength that they were capable of destroying the other side completely and threatened to do so if attacked.
 

Babagounj

Strength through joy
News Flash..............................................

CONCORD, N.H. (AP) — New Hampshire’s governor has ordered state-run liquor and wine outlets to remove all Russian liquor from their shelves in response to the country’s invasion of Ukraine.

Republican Gov. Chris Sununu signed an executive order Saturday directing all New Hampshire Liquor and Wine Outlets to remove Russian-made and Russian-branded spirits until further notice.

“New Hampshire stands with the people of Ukraine in their fight for freedom,” he said on Twitter.
 

fishtm2001

Well-Known Member
"Ukrainians are not some scary other, as lots of Ukrainians live in Russia, lots of Russians live and work in Ukraine, and family ties are common. President Volodymyr Zelensky is ethnically Russian, for example. Unlike the other wars, this is a borderline civil war, and Russians are hesitating this time.

The propaganda war is also faltering this time around. It's not barbarian Chechens, or Syrians, but the more cultivated Ukraine. And it seems to be severely ill-planned, lacking logistics and underestimating the resolve of the people living there."

fnordios
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
News Flash..............................................

CONCORD, N.H. (AP) — New Hampshire’s governor has ordered state-run liquor and wine outlets to remove all Russian liquor from their shelves in response to the country’s invasion of Ukraine.

Republican Gov. Chris Sununu signed an executive order Saturday directing all New Hampshire Liquor and Wine Outlets to remove Russian-made and Russian-branded spirits until further notice.

“New Hampshire stands with the people of Ukraine in their fight for freedom,” he said on Twitter.

Maybe they should stand with the Ukrainians in the Donbas region who are being genocided by the other Ukrainians.
 

BigGuy2732

Well-Known Member
Putin doesn’t want to kill the Ukrainians as he sees them as part of the Rus people. This is why there isn’t much fighting, and why the Russians are pleading for the Ukrainians to put their weapons down.
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
Putin doesn’t want to kill the Ukrainians as he sees them as part of the Rus people. This is why there isn’t much fighting, and why the Russians are pleading for the Ukrainians to put their weapons down.

Most of the fighting came before the invasion with the Western Ukrainians shelling the devil out of the Donetsk and the Luhansk republics. And Ukraine had shut the water off to Crimea. Now with the invasion, Crimea has water again. I'm not saying Putin's a good guy, or Russia's doing the right thing, but Ukraine isn't completely innocent in this situation.
 

BigGuy2732

Well-Known Member
Most of the fighting came before the invasion with the Western Ukrainians shelling the devil out of the Donetsk and the Luhansk republics. And Ukraine had shut the water off to Crimea. Now with the invasion, Crimea has water again. I'm not saying Putin's a good guy, or Russia's doing the right thing, but Ukraine isn't completely innocent in this situation.

I don’t know why in the
The hell these people want a Zionist controlled oligarch running the show. The Ukrainian people need to wise up. Russia ain’t great but I’d take them over nato.
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
I’ve actually been watching more Fox News than CNN lately. Who are you watching?

I have a news aggregator. I don't always pay attention to the source. I post some stuff here that I think offers a differing perspective from the mainstream. The Duran is an international source that doesn't consider the US perspective as the main focus on international affairs. I posted one video by Jimmy Dore that I felt did a good job offering another angle on the situation. I see lots of conspiracy stuff about Chernobyl and biolabs. The biolab stuff, and experiments conducted on Ukrainian soldiers seemed like it came from a reliable source, but I'm not sure what to think about those stories as yet.

The NATO issues and the abuses of the people in the Donbas region seem legit to me. But I'm not saying Russia is only invading with humanitarian intentions.
 

Babagounj

Strength through joy
Most of the fighting came before the invasion with the Western Ukrainians shelling the devil out of the Donetsk and the Luhansk republics. And Ukraine had shut the water off to Crimea. Now with the invasion, Crimea has water again. I'm not saying Putin's a good guy, or Russia's doing the right thing, but Ukraine isn't completely innocent in this situation.
Russia invaded in 2014 and seized Ukraine lands.
That war was never settled.
What is going on now is the 2014 conflict finally being played out.
 

BigGuy2732

Well-Known Member
Russia walked into Georgia and it wasn’t a big deal. Same for Kazakhstan. The difference here is that Ukraine is controlled by hostile western regimes with lots of money tied into that country. It’s going to be a struggle but at the end of the day, a new government by Russia will definitely be installed there.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Russia walked into Georgia and it wasn’t a big deal. Same for Kazakhstan. The difference here is that Ukraine is controlled by hostile western regimes with lots of money tied into that country. It’s going to be a struggle but at the end of the day, a new government by Russia will definitely be installed there.
Georgia is a small country and the Russians haven't invaded Kazakhstan yet. Ukraine is bigger than Texas with 44 million people. They have millions of men to fight off the Russians if they have the weapons to do it.
 

BrownFlush

Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
Elon Musk responded to the Ukrainian government’s plea to provide SpaceX’s Starlink satellite broadband service so that Ukrainian’s could access the internet as Russia invaded the country.
 

BigGuy2732

Well-Known Member
Georgia is a small country and the Russians haven't invaded Kazakhstan yet. Ukraine is bigger than Texas with 44 million people. They have millions of men to fight off the Russians if they have the weapons to do it.

They don’t need to invade either. They are thoroughly Russian allied.
 

BigGuy2732

Well-Known Member
Again, as long as China and India do nothing, there will be nothing we can do. Russia is going to win no matter how long it takes. Unless we want to start world war 3 over the interests of the financial elite.
 

BadIdeaGuy

Moderator
Staff member
Again, as long as China and India do nothing, there will be nothing we can do. Russia is going to win no matter how long it takes. Unless we want to start world war 3 over the interests of the financial elite.
You sound like a Russian bot, comrade.

A member of EU's parliament seems to think the war is costing Putin $20 billion a day.
Their stock market cratered.
Their banks are being cut off from the financial world.

It all comes back to money. And I think he might not have the funds to make this stick. It's certainly not a foregone conclusion.
 

BigGuy2732

Well-Known Member
You sound like a Russian bot, comrade.

A member of EU's parliament seems to think the war is costing Putin $20 billion a day.
Their stock market cratered.
Their banks are being cut off from the financial world.

It all comes back to money. And I think he might not have the funds to make this stick. It's certainly not a foregone conclusion.

The US dollar is worthless, might even collapse very soon. These sanctions mean almost nothing, and if you look at the fine print, it doesn't even impact the big banks. Sanctions used to mean something before the money got out of control. I'm not a Russian bot, I am actually German born and I actually have a lasting hatred for that country for what they did to my people. These are just the facts.
 
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