Russia Claims Ukraine Standoff Is Over

DELACROIX

In the Spirit of Honore' Daumier
More misinformation corrected:

Russia isn't losing. They are retreating at any resistance, surrounding the cities in question, and moving on. This keeps body count low.

And they aren't like dumb Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan. They don't destroy infrastructure that they then have to rebuild. They're not trying to police and Occupy.

They are there to leave everything intact, and put a more friendly government in. That's it. They have their eye on the ball.

Russia has total air superiority and could win any ground they want. But they actually think more than one move ahead.

Let me break down your observations:

A. Russian soldiers are not retreating, in fact they are on the borders of most of the Ukraine cities. Body counts will never be released till this War is over if ever, how do you know they are low? Of course they are not losing last time I checked they are a superpower with a far larger army.

B. There is no such thing as infrastructure in Afghanistan before the Americans arrived. Iraq were begging to be “Desert Stormed”, remember Kuwait. Saddam had it coming..💥

C. Define “more friendly government “ ?

D. Granted Russia has not unleashed their air forces, maybe they are worried about Ukrainian Air Defenses or do not want to mistakenly kill innocent civilians by an errant missile. We will find out in a few days once the ground troops enter these major cities.
 

wilberforce15

Well-Known Member

The only video you need to watch.

West Point grad. Air Force officer. Decades as a prof on regional politics there.

And he is dripping golden commentary.

We made Putin do it.
 

wilberforce15

Well-Known Member
Let me break down your observations:

A. Russian soldiers are not retreating, in fact they are on the borders of most of the Ukraine cities. Body counts will never be released till this War is over if ever, how do you know they are low? Of course they are not losing last time I checked they are a superpower with a far larger army.

B. There is no such thing as infrastructure in Afghanistan before the Americans arrived. Iraq were begging to be “Desert Stormed”, remember Kuwait. Saddam had it coming..💥

C. Define “more friendly government “ ?

D. Granted Russia has not unleashed their air forces, maybe they are worried about Ukrainian Air Defenses or do not want to mistakenly kill innocent civilians by an errant missile. We will find out in a few days once the ground troops enter these major cities.
Russian soldiers are not retreating. They are disengaging and surrounding the cities, whereby they can get the same result with less risk all kinds of other benefits.

They are taking the most efficient and safest route to their goals.
 

wilberforce15

Well-Known Member
Let me break down your observations:

A. Russian soldiers are not retreating, in fact they are on the borders of most of the Ukraine cities. Body counts will never be released till this War is over if ever, how do you know they are low? Of course they are not losing last time I checked they are a superpower with a far larger army.

B. There is no such thing as infrastructure in Afghanistan before the Americans arrived. Iraq were begging to be “Desert Stormed”, remember Kuwait. Saddam had it coming..💥

C. Define “more friendly government “ ?

D. Granted Russia has not unleashed their air forces, maybe they are worried about Ukrainian Air Defenses or do not want to mistakenly kill innocent civilians by an errant missile. We will find out in a few days once the ground troops enter these major cities.
C. More friendly means simply a government that will not be involved with the EU or Nato.

Very simple.
 

wilberforce15

Well-Known Member
Well the Ukrainian people sure thinks that the EU and NATO are more friendly than Putin right now. Don’t they have a say in the matter?
We overthrew the government there and installed a friendly regime for ourselves. The Ukrainian people are not clamoring for EU and NATO membership. Some are. Some want to break off and join Russia. It's a complicated place.
 

BigGuy2732

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Putin is keeping casualties low because he’s going to use the regular soldiers to kill all the Ukrainian neo nazis from the new military. I would hate to be the azov batallion right now.
 

vantexan

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So.....China gives us the deadliest virus in history but we continue to import everything from them including the masks that these idiots wear.

But ....Russia wants to go bomb some neighbors and we shut down everything we get from them.

CMON GUYS OPEN YOUR EYES

CORONAVIRUS WAS A HOAX

✊🧔
We're still getting oil from Russia.
 

wilberforce15

Well-Known Member
Putin is keeping casualties low because he’s going to use the regular soldiers to kill all the Ukrainian neo nazis from the new military. I would hate to be the azov batallion right now.
This is likely a part of his plan. But you're talking about 10 levels over the heads of the people here.
 

vantexan

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We overthrew the government there and installed a friendly regime for ourselves. The Ukrainian people are not clamoring for EU and NATO membership. Some are. Some want to break off and join Russia. It's a complicated place.
The Ukrainians overthrew a Putin puppet. They've had several presidents since.
 

Lineandinitial

Legio patria nostra
We're still getting oil from Russia.
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wilberforce15

Well-Known Member
But you need them to transfer from one place to another.. or is way over your head?
The oil can already get from place to place, just less efficiently.

The oil can get here from Russia. It cna get here from anywhere. Pipelines don't change production or our ultimate reliability on Russia.
 
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