Sarah Palin at Tea party convention...cheating!
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tieguy
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so now you conceed that there is one country north of me.
And you do agree that a person in a leadership position from that one country chose to go to america to get health care he could not get in that one country called canada?
klein
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Tie, it aint nothing new, that the US has the most specialist in the world. The USA attracts nurses, doctors, specialists from all over the world.
It's called money !
Why would the best specialist work for $5.000 a month, if they can earn up to $100K per month in America ?
Any Canadian in the medical field here, (and other places around the world), is offered an instant greencard and more money in the US.
He explained why he went, and I'm fine with that. So should anybody else, that needs an expert specialist for a very rare and uncommen procedure.
As long as America pays the highest earnings for doctors, and specialist, it'll probably stay that way.
But with the greenback falling, and your healthcare going broke, who knows how long that will last ?
Same as in Hockey. Canada can't seem to win the Stanely Cup anymore, the US has our best players.
But, now with the dollar exchange.... things will probably turn around.
Another example is Nasa, and american Astronounts : Looks like they'll be hitching a ride with the Russian Space Agency in the future.
These worldwide smart specialist, they won't just vanish in thin air, if the pay is less. But, they might stay in thier home country, instead. BE it USA, Canada, England, Germany, or so on.
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Seems your leader Sarah Palin admiited last night in Calgary, Canada. That her and her family used to travel to Canada for healthcare !!!
What was fascinating about the ever-fascinating Sarah Palin's speech was another of her Canadian connections. One that didn't involve hockey.
“My first five years of life we spent in Skagway, Alaska, right there by Whitehorse (180km away). Believe it or not – this was in the ‘60s – we used to hustle on over the border for health care that we would receive in Whitehorse. I remember my brother, he burned his ankle in some little kid accident thing and my parents had to put him on a train and rush him over to Whitehorse and I think, isn’t that kind of ironic now. Zooming over the border, getting health care from Canada.
tieguy
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you missed this quote:
Now in fairness, she was born in Idaho and them moved to Alaska as an infant in 1964, two years before the Medical Care Act that established national medicare came to Canada. Several years after universal coverage came to a Now in fairness, she was born in Idaho and them moved to Alaska as an infant in 1964, two years before the Medical Care Act that established national medicare came to Canada. Several years after universal coverage came to acute hospital care like burns, mind you. But then, it's not exactly anybody's political choice where they receive medical attention when they're less than five years old, to say nothing of the political ideologies one doesn't really develop around that age.cute hospital care like burns, mind you. But then, it's not exactly anybody's political choice where they receive medical attention when they're less than five years old, to say nothing of the political ideologies one doesn't really develop around that age.
tieguy
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hmm you mean this leader is not less then five years old?
and as a leader it would be safe to assume he has access to the best health care canada has to offer?
yet he chose to go to the united states to get his treatment?
strange very strange.
klein
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I find it strange that americans call all govenours leaders of thier country. I certainly don't see it that way up here.
But, your politics are backwards, anyways.
No worry tie.
Talk to me in 10 - 20 years when your medicare system has collapsed on it's own.
tieguy
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I'm not sure what you would call a governor if he is not a leader.
I'm now supposed to ignore the point that a leader of your country went to another country to get health care that he could not get in canada?
You were the one telling us how great canadas health care system is.
you were the one denying the point that canadians were coming to the US to get healthcare they could not get in canada.
and now a prominent leader of your country comes across the border for the same reason.
go figure.
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Lue C Fur
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Maybe he was counting some of Canada's provinces to get to 57. I wonder...did anyone ask him why he said 57 or was the liberal news media to stupid to notice he said 57 cause their legs were trembeling.
tieguy
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klein
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Here, lets leave it at this :
Canadians strongly support the health system's public rather than for-profit private basis, and a 2009 poll by Nanos Research found 86.2% of Canadians surveyed supported or strongly supported "public solutions to make our public health care stronger."]
A 2009 Harris/Decima poll found 82% of Canadians preferred their healthcare system to the one in the United States.
Canadians offered free care in the US paid by the Canadian government have sometimes declined it.
'We did a deal with the University of Washington at Seattle' said Hutchinton..to take 50 bypass cases at $18,000 per head, almost $3,000 higher than the cost in Vancouver, with all the money [paid by] the province..In theory, the Seattle operations promised to take the heat off the Ministry of Health until a fourth heart surgery unit opened in the Vancouver suburb of New Westminster. If the first batch of Seattle bypasses went smoothly..then the government planned to buy three of four more 50-head blocks. But four weeks after announcing the plan, health administrators had to admit they were stumped. 'As of now..we've have nine people sign up. The opposition party, the press, everybody's making a big stink about our waiting lists. And we've got [only] nine people signed up! The surgeons ask their patients and they say, "I'd rather wait," We thought we could get maybe two hundred and fifty done down in Seattle..but if nobody wants to go to Seattle, we're stuck,'".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_in_Canada
No matter what Tie, you prefer your healthcare, and we prefer ours.
It will never be setteled.
Done.
Lue C Fur
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Ok...so does this mean that we wont have to see any more of you posts on how great Canada"s socialist systems are compared to America? YIPPIE!!!!!
klein
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Might as well, since the US never looks to other countries how things are done better, cheaper, and more efficient.
Here is a Chinese Article, before the World Recession hit.
Even Germans I met in Fl, and the Bahamas, told me first thing, how rich Canada is.
https://web.archive.org/web/2007110...et.com/english/2007-10/31/content_6978187.htm
Lue C Fur
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So i guess you cant then...or did you not understand???? Maybe you could start a new thread on how much better Canada is then America and we can let it all hang out.
klein
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I didn't bring it here. I posted that Sarah was visiting Calgary.
You got Tie to thank on this one, since he had to bash our healthcare once again.
Wonder, how anyone can do that, without ever using it and or experiencing it, anyways.
Maybe it's jelousy ? That I'm unemployed, but yet can still see a doctor for free, or that poor waitress, that works pt weekends in a restaurant or bar has the same access to healthcare as anyone else ?
In the good ol'e USA, that wouldn't be considered fair, now would it ?
I also find your politicians play more politics, then to concentrate or work together to make it a stronger USA.
No matter what, they won't agree on anything that could move the country in the right direction. No matter which party is in power.
Almost every new bill, is a new stalemate.
You would think the US has a miniority government, and not Canada. But, it's reverse.
klein
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The US aftermath of Sarah's visit here :
Palin's claim family sought medical care in Canada prompts scrutiny, ridicule
WASHINGTON - Sarah Palin's weekend admission that her family once travelled to Canada to receive treatment under the public health-care system she's so often demonized prompted skepticism and ridicule Monday among her critics in the United States.
more: http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/100308/health/health_us_cda_palin_health
Palin's claim family sought medical care in Canada prompts scrutiny, ridicule
WASHINGTON - Sarah Palin's weekend admission that her family once travelled to Canada to receive treatment under the public health-care system she's so often demonized prompted skepticism and ridicule Monday among her critics in the United States.
more: http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/100308/health/health_us_cda_palin_health
