Sean Hannity and Rachel Maddow are Liars (by their own standards)

Catatonic

Nine Lives
Politifact is a liberal site that makes up stuff.
I went back and checked and I still disagree on this one.
Like most media they have a liberal bias but the facts are the facts.
Politifacts may choose conservatives more often than libs when doing a check but their ratings are even lax in my mind.
If someone lies ... they lie.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Houston has a Democrat mayor and the city goes Democrat almost every election in the last 10 years.
You should research more than you do.
It took me about 30 seconds to ferret out those two facts.
So, are you saying all Democrats are liberals? I said Austin is the only liberal city. And taken as a whole I'll wager there are more conservatives in the Houston metropolitan area than liberals. Not so in New York or San Francisco.
 

Catatonic

Nine Lives
So, are you saying all Democrats are liberals? I said Austin is the only liberal city. And taken as a whole I'll wager there are more conservatives in the Houston metropolitan area than liberals. Not so in New York or San Francisco.
I'm just going by facts not what I think.
Maybe that's why you can post a lot faster than me.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
I went back and checked and I still disagree on this one.
Like most media they have a liberal bias but the facts are the facts.
Politifacts may choose conservatives more often than libs when doing a check but their ratings are even lax in my mind.
If someone lies ... they lie.
Including Politifact.
 

Turdferguson

Just a turd
Mitch McConnell challenged bugs bunny to a cross country road race in the 40's cheated
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the whole way.
FACT!!!!
 

Catatonic

Nine Lives
Why I always said that fluffing fits you. Me thinks you fluff to much and thus instead of pointing up at your chest, it just points at your shoes!
I have the intellect and the wisdom to understand that Current Events is inhabited by losers who believe that what they think matters, is important and oddly enough, the truth.
It's a very entertaining place.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Politifact includes the source(s) for disagreeing or affirming with whomever they are checking.
So? It's lazy with all due respect to rely on any entity to tell you who is honest and who isn't. Watch for yourself, both liberal and conservatives. When Rush Limbaugh first came on he would play tapes of liberals saying one thing to one group, the polar opposite to another group. Clinton used to do that. It made the Liberals furious because they could no longer control the message. Who would've thought Walter Cronkite was a flaming liberal? Pretty evident in his writings after retiring. And yet as the most powerful "gatekeeper" of his time he decided what got reported on. Which is why I remember so many stories that would infuriate my grandfather about extremely expensive military expenditures on toilet seats, etc. But never any stories on huge sums to pay for welfare that never got people off government dependency. Most people who embrace a liberal point of view never realize how they are manipulated into seeing it that way, just as those that support going to war are manipulated with jingoism, patriotism, etc. But each side believes they have a firm grasp on what is truth and the other side is being led by the hand, too simple to see for themselves. Isn't that so wkmac? Everyone is so convinced of their innate superiority and will only accept others as equals if they say all the right things. Otherwise they're to be belittled, shamed, and marginalized. Right, driveindriveout? In the words of those great American philosophers Sonny and Cher, the beat goes on...
 

Catatonic

Nine Lives
So? It's lazy, with all due respect, to rely on any entity to tell you who is honest and who isn't.
Correct!
I usually have an idea but I typically will use 3 disparate sources to verify.
Sometimes, it's hard to tell what is the truth.
These are fertile grounds for the spinmasters to do their magic.
 

Catatonic

Nine Lives
Who would've thought Walter Cronkite was a flaming liberal? Pretty evident in his writings after retiring. And yet as the most powerful "gatekeeper" of his time he decided what got reported on.
I hated Walter Cronkite ... to me, as a high school student, it was obvious he was a sorry, lying SOB (I can't express to you how much I hated him in my teens and twenties).
Dan Rather was in the field doing the same thing.
I have not watched CBS news since the early 70's ... Walter and Dan made a huge impression on me as a teenager.

Note: I do record and watch certain parts of CBS News Sunday Morning (not Face The Nation).
 

wkmac

Well-Known Member
I have the intellect and the wisdom to understand that Current Events is inhabited by losers who believe that what they think matters, is important and oddly enough, the truth.
It's a very entertaining place.

Never argued or thought otherwise. BC for the most part is little more than a dick waving contest if you really want to boil it down.
 

Catatonic

Nine Lives
But each side believes they have a firm grasp on what is truth and the other side is being led by the hand, too simple to see for themselves.
Everyone is so convinced of their innate superiority and will only accept others as equals if they say all the right things.
Otherwise they're to be belittled, shamed, and marginalized.
In the words of those great American philosophers Sonny and Cher, the beat goes on...
And yet, you seem to only pay attention to the Conservative pundits.
Think critically which usually starts with being skeptical ... the truth is fungible.
 
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