UnionStrong
Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
Idiot
Seniority Part Timers Employees Got Screwed Again on Tentative contract!!!
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23% raise after an 8% inflation is a significant raise.
Also, any inflation rate above 3% is already built into previous (and current) contracts. We've just been riding on low inflation rates for a couple decades.
With the exception of the cola raises
The full-timers did not get a 2% raise this contract
You're right, of course.
I just find it interesting that it's the part-timers who are screaming to vote no. And they're getting the significantly higher %raise.
All they are finally getting a decent raise
What they choose to do with it is up to them but they have been behind for a number of decades
Brown Down
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Percentages are funny things though. The higher the number the more you need for a certain percentage.
FeederDriverIL
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I agree. Your and you're are elementary school english.
I have NOT been lurking
Eat. Sleep. Work. Jork.
He said he was half so he may have flunked that
I spoke with a rep from my local and asked how MRA's would be affected. He told me that according to SOB, MRA rates would be frozen and our contractual raises applied on top of them.
The wage calculator they rolled out seems to confirm this.
Just A UPS Guy
Bully.
And allegedly that will now be the contractual wage for those employees. So if that building stopped paying MRAs no current employees at the time of ratification would ever lose money.
Allegedly.
DriverNerd
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The issue is there is nothing in the contract that says this. Even if UPS does give the raises on top of the MRA, what's to keep them from taking the MRA away in the future. I keep hearing about the "agreement" between UPS and the Teamsters over the MRA situation, but have seen nothing. If it isn't in the contract I'm not sure how you can believe it's going to happen.
DriverNerd
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I agree completely. How can it be contractual if it's not in the contract?
UnionStrong
Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
Not in writing? Not enforceable.
Just A UPS Guy
Bully.
Well everything else has seemed to be on the up-and-up...what could possibly go wrong with this????
UPS agreed to keep the MRAs but not willing to put it in the contract...
Did SOB make them pinky swear?
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
They're saying taking away the MRA post agreement would be "bargaining in bad faith".
It's a specific legal phrase that covers a lot of stuff. Make of that what you will:
Bargaining in good faith with employees' union representative (Section 8(d) & 8(a)(5)) | National Labor Relations Board
Employers have a legal duty to bargain in good faith with their employees' representative and to sign any collective bargaining agreement that has been reached. This duty encompasses many obligations, including a duty not to make certain changes without bargaining with the union and not to...
DriverNerd
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I don't buy it. If they were concerned about UPS removing the MRA's they could have just included that in the contract. Given that they have given and taken away the MRA's before I don't see how it would be bad faith to remove them once again.They're saying taking away the MRA post agreement would be "bargaining in bad faith".
It's a specific legal phrase that covers a lot of stuff. Make of that what you will:
Bargaining in good faith with employees' union representative (Section 8(d) & 8(a)(5)) | National Labor Relations Board
Employers have a legal duty to bargain in good faith with their employees' representative and to sign any collective bargaining agreement that has been reached. This duty encompasses many obligations, including a duty not to make certain changes without bargaining with the union and not to...www.nlrb.gov
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HarryWarden
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Maybe didn’t want to draw too much attention to workers who aren’t getting MRAs
8% for how many years? We’ve lost 20% buying power over the last 3 years. Inflation still goin up. 3%/year equals 15% over the life of the contract. You’re in lala land.
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