Seriously, Is there a place for Islam in America?

[vantexan]

Spoken like a Rhino on all the things they say they stand for until it is time to vote. Consider this a rebuke.

I will gladly vote, if ever a Congressman, for your right to bear arms. I will also gladly vote against allowing average citizens to own semiautomatic weapons. They aren't a necessity except for law enforcement and the military. And my mind was made up by Sandy Hook, and numerous other mass killings, but especially Sandy Hook. I can't bear to think what those kids went through and people's right to have playthings, which is about what it amounts to, doesn't supersede their right to live.

 

[bbsam]

BS, and if it did none of these things it is swift justice. For the third time, I said 100% certainty of the guilt of the accused. You don't want to address the problem, the problem is evil. Eradicate it as swiftly as possible. Fourth time, 100% certainty of guilt.

Since Columbine school shootings have been rampant. Copycat. Public executions wouldn’t change that if you really believe the mental health argument.

 

[floridays]

I will gladly vote, if ever a Congressman, for your right to bear arms. I will also gladly vote against allowing average citizens to own semiautomatic weapons. They aren't a necessity except for law enforcement and the military. And my mind was made up by Sandy Hook, and numerous other mass killings, but especially Sandy Hook. I can't bear to think what those kids went through and people's right to have playthings, which is about what it amounts to, doesn't supersede their right to live.

Other than Las Vegas, the mass killings have been committed in close quarters, semi-auto handguns will be the next to go. You're grown, you don't need me to think for you, but in your thinking don't be knee jerk. Look for real solutions, not easy scapegoats.

 

[floridays]

Since Columbine school shootings have been rampant. Copycat. Public executions wouldn’t change that if you really believe the mental health argument.

Can the same happen with a semi-auto pistol. If you are truthful you have to say yes. That being the case, with your mindset where do semi-auto handguns fall into the picture?

 

[vantexan]

Other than Las Vegas, the mass killings have been committed in close quarters, semi-auto handguns will be the next to go. You're grown, you don't need me to think for you, but in your thinking don't be knee jerk. Look for real solutions, not easy scapegoats.

These weapons enable someone to kill a lot of people quickly. Nuts like the Florida guy can't be stopped from using a gun, but they can be stopped from killing dozens in a few minutes. You may be the most responsible gun owner in the world, but if you have a bipolar child with anger issues it's a possibility that your child might end the life of someone else's child no matter how responsible you were. I'm certain the mother of the Sandy Hook killer thought she was responsible. And got murdered herself.

 

[floridays]

These weapons enable someone to kill a lot of people quickly. Nuts like the Florida guy can't be stopped from using a gun, but they can be stopped from killing dozens in a few minutes. You may be the most responsible gun owner in the world, but if you have a bipolar child with anger issues it's a possibility that your child might end the life of someone else's child no matter how responsible you were. I'm certain the mother of the Sandy Hook killer thought she was responsible. And got murdered herself.

So let me get this straight, if two children get killed at school by a revolver it doesn't matter? If it does matter, using the same logic, if other weaponry is outlawed, (confiscation would be the only means) and revolver becomes the weapon of choice, should they be outlawed? I like how you just passed by the description of the mass killings being in close quarters to evade the semi-auto pistol question.
Most mass shootings take place in gun free zones, is there a correlation? Is it possible gun free zones should be re-evaluated?

 

[bbsam]

Can the same happen with a semi-auto pistol. If you are truthful you have to say yes. That being the case, with your mindset where do semi-auto handguns fall into the picture?

Somewhat outside the picture. There’s a reason the “assault rifles” are chosen. Personally I think it somehow ties into the mental health issue.

 

[vantexan]

So let me get this straight, if two children get killed at school by a revolver it doesn't matter? If it does matter, using the same logic, if other weaponry is outlawed, (confiscation would be the only means) and revolver becomes the weapon of choice, should they be outlawed? I like how you just passed by the description of the mass killings being in close quarters to evade the semi-auto pistol question.
Most mass shootings take place in gun free zones, is there a correlation? Is it possible gun free zones should be re-evaluated?

I didn't evade anything. Notice I said semiautomatic weapons. I also pointed out there's no way to eliminate all the guns out there, but at least if the disturbed don't have access to semiautomatic weapons it gives a lot of people a chance to get out of the way. A chance to subdue the shooter. You would still have the right to defend your home with a shotgun, etc.

 

[vantexan]

Hey Mr.Red X, that you would disagree with me wanting dangerous weapons kept out of the hands of psychotics says all I need to know about you.

 

[DriveInDriѵeOut]

You couldn't possibly be this ignorant about firearms.

I know enough. What do you think the Obama administration was doing with ammo? Seriously, if you can't get the semi-automatic weapons off the street, outlaw the manufacture of the ammo. Literally render them useless at some point. You're not going to get rid of the guns and even if you could criminals wouldn't obey the laws. Sure they could manufacture the bullets themselves, but it would greatly inhibit idiots like the Florida shooter. Yes, they could shoot people with revolvers but that gives people a chance to get out of the way. I don't want anyone shot with any gun but it's going to happen. And I'm for gun ownership, but I can't justify owning these assault rifles when kids are getting shot like this or bump stocks are being used to make them almost fully automatic.

Could have just said "yes I could".

 

[Cypp]

Hey guys how do I log into the upser

 

[vantexan]

Could have just said "yes I could".

You're a sad little man.

 

[DriveInDriѵeOut]

You're a sad little man.

Says the guy living in Uzbekistan.

 

[Non sequitur]

I thinking home schooling numbers will be going up.

 

[rickyb]

well that was a wasted thread.

The answer is
Wrong! there is a place for islam there is not a place for sharia law.

what about the KKK?

 

[El Correcto]

Considering there are mass shootings daily in this country we are going to need some perfect timing to be able to have the discussion with this restriction.

I completely agree it’s hard to demagogue without emotions running high. Let’s not discuss self defense and gun free zones. We also shouldn’t talk about local regulations paying security cost for these schools.

No people need to hand over their guns immediately, let’s just tack it on to the patriot act.

 

[CanOSup]

I didn't evade anything. Notice I said semiautomatic weapons. I also pointed out there's no way to eliminate all the guns out there, but at least if the disturbed don't have access to semiautomatic weapons it gives a lot of people a chance to get out of the way. A chance to subdue the shooter. You would still have the right to defend your home with a shotgun, etc.

Agreed,
Why does the average citizen need access to Assault Rifles and other weaponry specifically designed to be utilized in combat in their homes. The amount of devastation an AR can dole out in the wrong hands is much higher than your traditional firearms.

Im also a strong believer in right to bare arms. But where is the line?

 

[El Correcto]

Agreed,
Why does the average citizen need access to Assault Rifles and other weaponry specifically designed to be utilized in combat in their homes. The amount of devastation an AR can dole out in the wrong hands is much higher than your traditional firearms.

Im also a strong believer in right to bare arms. But where is the line?

So when do sick people start choosing other means, like bombs. Charging their cars into crowds what ever. You are not going to outlaw violence, you are going to further hinder the constitution. Good luck getting re-elected with a majority republican in power.

 

[El Correcto]

If ar’s are outlawed will be having this conversation again without serious school reform. Kids bring handguns, knives possibly a bomb. You are not going to outlaw violence and mental illness.

 

[CanOSup]

So when do sick people start choosing other means, like bombs. Charging their cars into crowds what ever. You are not going to outlaw violence, you are going to further hinder the constitution. Good luck getting re-elected with a majority republican in power.

Bomb making or possesion is in fact illegal in almost all cases. Agreed we cannot stop people wishing to do harm to other people completely. But why give them a Tank, when we can limit the damage to a Prius.