Shooting at Oregon Community College

[Sportello]

Well according to the laws, carrying in a school is against the law. And if you go to school and someone shoots it up, the school should be liable, negligent homicide...

If a school (or other) wants to have a gun free zone then there should be a law requirng them to make sure it remains gun free and offer adequate protection to those who enter. If the school (or other) doesn't want to take on that responsibility then the gun free zone ceases to exist and the existing state laws concerning CC would be in effect.

That is some seriously flawed logic right there.

 

[wayfair]

That is some seriously flawed logic right there.

and your suggestion?

 

[wayfair]

Imagine a fully loaded Boeing 747 with 500 people aboard, all packing their firearms because the law says the airlines cannot restrict concealed carry. Somehow I don't think that would turn out to well.

I'm thinking .gov would be restricting CC on an airlines

 

[Babagounj]

What if that plane were carrying US Troops to or from a combat zone ?

 

[Babagounj]

I'm thinking .gov would be restricting CC on an airlines

There is almost always an armed US Air Marshall on every plane .

 

[Sportello]

and your suggestion?

To not use flawed logic.

 

[wayfair]

To not use flawed logic.

I know, it sounds more "anti-gun" than pro gun... shame on me

 

[Sportello]

I know, it sounds more "anti-gun" than pro gun... shame on me

It just sounds irrational.

 

[wayfair]

It just sounds irrational.

just like UBC's

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

and your suggestion?

It's simple, don't go there or ignore their sign and carry anyways.
We don't need any new laws and we don't need the government deciding a private business owes victims money because some nut job shot them while they were on their property.

 

[wayfair]

. why should the owner of that establishment be held liable when something bad happens?

If the owner declares it to be gun free... what, are you taking them for, their word???

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

If the owner declares it to be gun free... what, are you taking them for, their word???

I'd probably just ignore their sign. Is it really that hard?

 

[wayfair]

I'd probably just ignore their sign. Is it really that hard?

not for me, but people want more regulation

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

not for me, but people want more regulation

Yet your idea is a new law to hold owners who ban guns on their own property to be held financially responsible for acts of violence that happen there.... seems like you fit right in with the more gun laws crowd, just a different version of laws.

 

[wayfair]

Yet your idea is a new law to hold owners who ban guns on their own property to be held financially responsible for acts of violence that happen there.... seems like you fit right in with the more gun laws crowd, just a different version of laws.

no, the law should be if the owners who claim to be gun free to provide that protection

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

no, the law should be if the owners who claim to be gun free to provide that protection

So you're against more gun laws, unless those gun laws are used to counter act the other gun laws you don't like.....
I really don't think we need to play these games.
If you want to carry in a gun free zone do it. If you don't, then just don't go there.

 

[wayfair]

So you're against more gun laws, unless those gun laws are used to counter act the other gun laws you don't like.....

A law I don't like... haha

go light up a cig in Cali restaurant

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

A law I don't like... haha

go light up a cig in Cali restaurant

wut

 

[newfie]

When are we going to finally stop this madness? I'm not pro-gun, I'm not anti-gun. But this needs to end. People should not have to fear being shot just by going to class.

http://nypost.com/2015/10/01/shooti...&utm_source=NYPFacebook&utm_medium=SocialFlow

lock and load boys. problem solved.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Its not a problem I personally have to deal with, because I have a concealed carry permit and in Oregon you can carry pretty much anywhere you want to with one. Businesses are still free to put up "no guns allowed" signs but the signs do not have the force of law and you aren't breaking the law by ignoring them. You can even carry in schools with a permit. Only Federal buildings are off-limits, or county courthouses with signs and metal detectors to walk thru.

If I owned a business, I most certainly would have the right to set the rules, which would include "no guns".