Socks and Trucks!

[10 point]

Who was the IBT President.... at the time, that language was negotiated ?





That's always been the company "claim" when refusing to install more handrails.







He wasn't ejected.

More like pinned (and unconscious) in the jumper seat.



-Bug-

The article said he was ejected. Paragraph four. Do you have other info that counters that.

Help us out.

 

[hondo]

The article said he was ejected. Paragraph four. Do you have other info that counters that.

Help us out.

Seen the (gruesome) pictures. Still in jump seat (in crumpled cab).

 

[1BROWNWRENCH]

The fourth paragraph of the article linked in Bubblehead's Post above said he was ejected from the vehicle.

I saw that, but how could he when he was still within the vehicle in the photos? That's just not true. It's also not true about the brakes not working with the engine off because of the keyless.

 

[10 point]

I saw that, but how could he when he was still within the vehicle in the photos? That's just not true. It's also not true about the brakes not working with the engine off because of the keyless.

The picture where I saw him he was against the base of a tree. May have been after the fact.

 

[1BROWNWRENCH]

The photos I saw included him in the seat mashed up against the bulkhead with earplugs in his ears.

 

[10 point]

Google this...
This is the actual article.
Said he was ejected.

Watch the video.

 

[1BROWNWRENCH]

Still not buying it.

 

[oldngray]

Google this...
This is the actual article.
Said he was ejected.View attachment 78504
Watch the video.

no video link there

 

[10 point]

no video link there

It would not copy the URL. It said it was too large. You have to type that in Google and watch the video. The story itself twice said that the helper was ejected. I don't have a dog in the fight... I'm just reporting what I read.

 

[1BROWNWRENCH]

News reports aren't always the gospel. I know people who were involved in the investigation and have seen the vehicle in person.

 

[10 point]

News reports aren't always the gospel. I know people who were involved in the investigation and have seen the vehicle in person.

True.
The original story said that when people got to the scene the the driver was standing in the back of the truck and evidently did not know that his helper was ejected the truck.

 

[1BROWNWRENCH]

I am going to refrain from any more commentary. I am not interested in getting tangled in any legal action that may still be going on.

 

[oldngray]

What UPS says in a PCM isn't always 100 percent accurate either.

 

[10 point]

I am going to refrain from any more commentary. I am not interested in getting tangled in any legal action that may still be going on.

Yes, let's get back to more important issues like socks.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

The article said he was ejected. Paragraph four. Do you have other info that counters that.

Help us out.

Your google and BrownCafe search skills are weak.... young Obi-Wan.


http://www.browncafe.com/community/threads/possible-fatal-flaw-in-the-package-cars.357593/page-3


Post #51.



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[10 point]

Your google and BrownCafe search skills are weak.... young Obi-Wan.


http://www.browncafe.com/community/threads/possible-fatal-flaw-in-the-package-cars.357593/page-3


Post #51.



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Yep. So true.
Too old to care.
I can spell ibuprofen tho.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

I remember some Lawyer, trolling this site for corroborating info.


The Bug is good.... the Bug is wise.

 

[Irishman Collins]

I'm not sure.... if you are even cognizant, of how contract negotiations work.

Really ?

You want to "open the book" and start from scratch ?


ODG.



-Bug-

My point is simple, all subjects can be open for negotiations when contracts expire. If the Union or company feels a particular issue needs to be open for negotiations, they make a proposal and discussions open up from there. I would think a "Big Union Guy" would understand the basics of Contract negotiations?

 

[BigUnionGuy]

I would think a "Big Union Guy" would understand the basics of Contract negotiations?

Sure do.

Been involved with many negotiations.

Wrote an entire contract Rider, for one group my Local organized.

My point is simple, all subjects can be open for negotiations when contracts expire. If the Union or company feels a particular issue needs to be open for negotiations, they make a proposal and discussions open up from there.

Thanks for clarifying what you meant. I didn't read it that way.

My previous point being, both sides need to be in agreement on whats open for negotiation.

Before.... one side (the company) thinks it's some sort of "free for all".

Seen it happen.



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[Coldworld]

They claim that they can't retrofit high back chairs and 3 point seat belts, yet they can retrofit keyless ignition and telematics?

which costs 10X the amount of 3 point seat belts