States with paid sick time laws...

[KearsargeCoop]

In February Michigan is mandating all employers with 10 or more employees to guarantee each employee 72 hours of paid sick time.
I know there are states out there with similar laws, just curious how corporate UPS has handled that in those states.
Currently we have (5) ten hour sick days, so 50 hours. How are those other 22 hours going to be handled?

Our center management had no clue whatsoever, so was just looking for some insight.

 

[Phineas]

It is state/city specific. We get none in our local at our building but the one in Chicago gets an additional 40 hours of pto. Can carry 20 hours over to next year

 

[MyTripisCut]

In February Michigan is mandating all employers with 10 or more employees to guarantee each employee 72 hours of paid sick time.
I know there are states out there with similar laws, just curious how corporate UPS has handled that in those states.
Currently we have (5) ten hour sick days, so 50 hours. How are those other 22 hours going to be handled?

Our center management had no clue whatsoever, so was just looking for some insight.

NJ PST is for 40 hours. Our supplement gives us 24 hours of sick time. UPS handles the other 16 hours very poorly. This is all the insight you will need.

 

[KearsargeCoop]

NJ PST is for 40 hours. Our supplement gives us 24 hours of sick time. UPS handles the other 16 hours very poorly. This is all the insight you will need.

And that is more or less what I was expecting to hear (in terms of how UPS handles their end). Thank you

 

[Wally]

Real life, unintended consequences of such laws means a switch to pto time. Workers in non-union situations actually lose paid holidays. So yet, you get so-called sick days as mandated by the state but less time off overall.

 

[542thruNthru]

Real life, unintended consequences of such laws means a switch to pto time. Workers in non-union situations actually lose paid holidays.

Sounds to me, like those employees need to organize and join a union

 

[Wally]

Sounds to me, like those employees need to organize and join a union

For sure, but it's not going to happen. Look at FedEx, they vote it down.

 

[Thebrownblob]

For sure, but it's not going to happen. Look at FedEx, they vote it down.

Express workers have never been able to even vote on it. Because included in the railway act.

Some of the ground and home contractors have voted and usually they vote to join the union. Getting company to sit down and negotiate a contract is another matter.

There has been some FedEx freight votes that have been voted down. But of course, in those instances the company gets giant raises and makes a bunch of promises. Uphill battle for sure.

 

[pkgdriver]

Express workers have never been able to even vote on it. Because included in the railway act.

Some of the ground and home contractors have voted and usually they vote to join the union. Getting company to sit down and negotiate a contract is another matter.

There has been some FedEx freight votes that have been voted down. But of course, in those instances the company gets giant raises and makes a bunch of promises. Uphill battle for sure.

Express( except pilots and A&P mechs) could vote on it but it would have to be country wide instead of locally. Big hill to climb for Teamsters or others. Correct?

 

[Thebrownblob]

Express( except pilots and A&P mechs) could vote on it but it would have to be country wide instead of locally. Big hill to climb for Teamsters or others. Correct?

Yep, it would have to be done all at once, which is not feasible.

 

[pkgdriver]

Yep, it would have to be done all at once, which is not feasible.

We could write letters again like 2008(?) to get this fixed.

 

[Thebrownblob]

We could write letters again like 2008(?) to get this fixed.

Sternly worded!!

 

[Wally]

Home Depot, Lowes, Walmart, Target, etc, all do not seem interested in unionizing.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Home Depot, Lowes, Walmart, Target, workers etc, all do not seem interested in fighting to unionize .

Fixed it for you, a lot of people want things they’re not willing to sacrifice for, they would rather complain.

 

[Wally]

Fixed it for you, a lot of people want things they’re not willing to sacrifice for, they would rather complain.

Can't really see any sacrifice voting in an union? Is Home Depot going to close up shop?

 

[Thebrownblob]

Can't really see any sacrifice voting in an union? Is Home Depot going to close up shop?

Ever been a part of a unionizing campaign? Quite a bit of pressure. Some people just can’t handle it.

 

[Wally]

Ever been a part of a unionizing campaign? Quite a bit of pressure. Some people just can’t handle it.

I would just keep my mouth shut, vote yes. What are they scared of?

 

[542thruNthru]

I would just keep my mouth shut, vote yes. What are they scared of?

Not that easy. I've helped on a few. It's one of the hardest things to do. Even harder when it's a big company with money.

 

[Wally]

Not that easy. I've helped on a few. It's one of the hardest things to do. Even harder when it's a big company with money.

You would think it would be a no brainer for employees, better pay, better benefits?

 

[rod]

You would think it would be a no brainer for employees, better pay, better benefits?

A few years ago our local hospital (one of the biggest employers in town) had a big push going to join a Union. I can't remember which one it was but it was voted NOT to join. If you talk to any hospital employee today all they do is bitch about work-------------kind of like UPS people.