States with paid sick time laws...

[Well-Known Member]

I would just keep my mouth shut, vote yes. What are they scared of?

Scared the Company is going to shut the place down, or move it, and they will lose their job.

 

[Thebrownblob]

You would think it would be a no brainer for employees, better pay, better benefits?

Ultimately, it is an no-brainer, but there’s a lot of pressure and fear tactics. Hard to explain I’ve been part of several, and it is mind-boggling sometimes.

 

[Wally]

Scared the Company is going to shut the place down, or move it, and they will lose their job.

How do you move Home Depot, Lowes, Walmart, Target, etc?

 

[542thruNthru]

You would think it would be a no brainer for employees, better pay, better benefits?

It's like current events in real life is the best way I can put it.

 

[nWo]

Starting a union from scratch is probably pretty difficult. Especially when you have a coorpation with unlimited resources fighting against you.

 

[Fenris]

In February Michigan is mandating all employers with 10 or more employees to guarantee each employee 72 hours of paid sick time.
I know there are states out there with similar laws, just curious how corporate UPS has handled that in those states.
Currently we have (5) ten hour sick days, so 50 hours. How are those other 22 hours going to be handled?

Our center management had no clue whatsoever, so was just looking for some insight.

Sec. 12:
If an employer’s employees are covered by a collective bargaining agreement in effect on the effective date of this act, this act applies beginning on the stated expiration date in the collective bargaining agreement, notwithstanding any statement in the agreement that it continues in force until a future date or event or the execution of a new collective bargaining agreement.

Applying these sections depends on the specific terms and conditions of the collective bargaining agreement, and these two sections preclude interference with current agreements when the parties have negotiated sick leave benefits. Thus, the Wage and Hour Department has identified two scenarios that determine whether the ESTA applies to employees beginning on Feb. 21, 2025:

1. The collective bargaining agreement includes terms regarding sick time or sick leave benefits:

Provided that the collective bargaining agreement includes terms related to sick leave, sick time, PTO with uses for sick time, or a similar benefit, the collective bargaining agreement terms apply, even if the benefit is less than what is required by the ESTA, until the agreement expires or is renewed, extended, or otherwise renegotiated. The agreement also applies in situations where the agreement expressly excludes sick leave benefits.



2. The collective bargaining agreement is silent as it relates to sick time or sick leave benefits:

Employees covered by a collective bargaining agreement that is completely silent on sick leave, either for the entire unit or for specific classifications covered by the agreement, are covered by the ESTA and begin accruing benefits on Feb. 21, 2025.

 

[Well-Known Member]

How do you move Home Depot, Lowes, Walmart, Target, etc?

Ask those afraid to organize in those companies.

 

[UnionStrong]

For sure, but it's not going to happen. Look at FedEx, they vote it down.

Idiots

 

[UnionStrong]

Sternly worded!!

Get Lindsey Graham to write them…

 

[UnionStrong]

You would think it would be a no brainer for employees, better pay, better benefits?

You would think…

 

[nWo]

You would think it would be a no brainer for employees, better pay, better benefits?

These corporations are spending billions to pass laws to make unionizing next to impossible.

 

[Wally]

These corporations are spending billions to pass laws to make unionizing next to impossible.

Still, we see workers voting an union down like they did at Mercedes-Benz. Things must be good on the job to do that.

 

[UnionStrong]

Still, we see workers voting an union down like they did at Mercedes-Benz. Things must be good on the job to do that.

Not every company abuses its employees

 

[Sixth Punch Sense]

In February Michigan is mandating all employers with 10 or more employees to guarantee each employee 72 hours of paid sick time.
I know there are states out there with similar laws, just curious how corporate UPS has handled that in those states.
Currently we have (5) ten hour sick days, so 50 hours. How are those other 22 hours going to be handled?

Our center management had no clue whatsoever, so was just looking for some insight.

We got it in MN last year, first couple of months were not good. We accrue 1 hr of pst per 32 hours worked. First few people that used it had an option day taken away. Have a very good steward and BA they all got there option time back.

When calling in we are instructed to either use the terms "Walz pay" or "sick or wellness day". There is a specific code for it 2* and time card will show sick pay but zero pay. But paycheck will have the day coded correctly and you will get your pay for the day. Strangely the supervisor that managed it didn't really know how to do it, so I always got paid 10 hours for a Walz pay day. Haven't used one since he left so not sure if that will still be the case

 

[KearsargeCoop]

Sec. 12:
If an employer’s employees are covered by a collective bargaining agreement in effect on the effective date of this act, this act applies beginning on the stated expiration date in the collective bargaining agreement, notwithstanding any statement in the agreement that it continues in force until a future date or event or the execution of a new collective bargaining agreement.

Applying these sections depends on the specific terms and conditions of the collective bargaining agreement, and these two sections preclude interference with current agreements when the parties have negotiated sick leave benefits. Thus, the Wage and Hour Department has identified two scenarios that determine whether the ESTA applies to employees beginning on Feb. 21, 2025:

1. The collective bargaining agreement includes terms regarding sick time or sick leave benefits:

Provided that the collective bargaining agreement includes terms related to sick leave, sick time, PTO with uses for sick time, or a similar benefit, the collective bargaining agreement terms apply, even if the benefit is less than what is required by the ESTA, until the agreement expires or is renewed, extended, or otherwise renegotiated. The agreement also applies in situations where the agreement expressly excludes sick leave benefits.



2. The collective bargaining agreement is silent as it relates to sick time or sick leave benefits:

Employees covered by a collective bargaining agreement that is completely silent on sick leave, either for the entire unit or for specific classifications covered by the agreement, are covered by the ESTA and begin accruing benefits on Feb. 21, 2025.

There's the answer for us Michiganders. No additional sick time.

 

[Sixth Punch Sense]

There's the answer for us Michiganders. No additional sick time.

That stinks

 

[nWo]

That's probably why they changed the option week to sick days.

 

[KearsargeCoop]

That's probably why they changed the option week to sick days.

You gotta think it had something to do with it.

 

[Thebrownblob]

That's probably why they changed the option week to sick days.

Nope, I was told the company fought it tooth and nail they did not want to go that week and they also wanted to charge an occurrence if you used a day. Finally, they relented.

 

[Bubblehead]

NJ PST is for 40 hours. Our supplement gives us 24 hours of sick time. UPS handles the other 16 hours very poorly. This is all the insight you will need.

I would love to argue a grievance when "UPS handles the other 16 hours poorly".

40 hours is forty hours.

....unless there is something in that particular law that gives UPS an out?