Stupid arguments about the Ground business model

[Fred's Myth]

Found this video of bacha fighting the concept of FedEx Ground as a business.

 

[bbsam]

"Team Concept"
Lmao

Yep. You’d be surprised. Raises the bar and expectations for everyone go up.

 

[FedGT]

Found this video of bacha fighting the concept of FedEx Ground as a business.

That’s giving way too much credit. Find something similar with this comparable thing.

 

[burrheadd]

Yep. You’d be surprised. Raises the bar and expectations for everyone go up.

Never could figure out why, If it’s a team am I doing all the work
Had a supe that used to pull the team BS all the time
Told him I’am a one man team

 

[MAKAVELI]

I don’t know. The guys who have come to me have been playing soccer and one played baseball. The ones who hunt fish and trap haven’t applied yet. They might be decent. The ones that really excel are the ones that have been coached for about 15 years and already have a team concept ingrained in them.

Those guys won't be working for you very long when they find out what UPS drivers make and they've been hiring off the street the past few years.

 

[bbsam]

Never could figure out why, If it’s a team am I doing all the work
Had a supe that used to pull the team BS all the time
Told him I’am a one man team

Exactly. But everyone knows who is putting forth the effort and who’s jackin’ it. Those who aren’t pulling their weight can and will be replaced and we get to the point where everyone knows that if help is needed, it’s really needed. We have a couple drivers probably on their way out and everyone is happy about it.

 

[bbsam]

Those guys won't be working for you very long when they find out what UPS drivers make and they've been hiring off the street the past few years.

Very possible. And I’ll be happy for them.

 

[It will be fine]

Those guys won't be working for you very long when they find out what UPS drivers make and they've been hiring off the street the past few years.

Same as it ever was, turnover is expected and it’s not a big deal. Most drivers don’t see this job as long term, they’d be taking a pay cut for their first couple years going to UPS and have to work much harder, much later in the day. They don’t plan on doing this for years so the trade off isn’t as easy as you think it is.

 

[MAKAVELI]

Same as it ever was, turnover is expected and it’s not a big deal. Most drivers don’t see this job as long term, they’d be taking a pay cut for their first couple years going to UPS and have to work much harder, much later in the day. They don’t plan on doing this for years so the trade off isn’t as easy as you think it is.

When you are young and have work ethic, there is no trade off and much easier to switch than you think.

 

[It will be fine]

When you are young and have work ethic, there is no trade off and much easier to switch than you think.

I’m sure you know my employees and their motivations better than I do. Thanks for the input.

 

[59 Dano]

Those guys won't be working for you very long when they find out what UPS drivers make and they've been hiring off the street the past few years.

"I keep losing my guys to UPS," said no Ground contractor ever.

 

[Northbaypkg]

"I keep losing my guys to UPS," said no Ground contractor ever.

From your comments on here you expect turnover to be high. Therefore you don't care the reason, you just find the next body to plug in.

 

[MAKAVELI]

"I keep losing my guys to UPS," said no Ground contractor ever.

That would be true in the past when UPS wasn't hiring off the street drivers. Ttku....

 

[59 Dano]

That would be true in the past when UPS wasn't hiring off the street drivers. Ttku....

They weren't saying it then, they aren't saying it now.

 

[MAKAVELI]

They weren't saying it then, they aren't saying it now.

Turnover is pretty high for ground. How do you know where they're going?

 

[AB831]

Turnover is pretty high for ground. How do you know where they're going?

He doesn’t. He’s just a blowhard who thinks he’s smart despite being wrong about almost everything he spouts off about. He actually tried to argue with me over what state I live in.

 

[It will be fine]

Turnover is pretty high for ground. How do you know where they're going?

I’ve been doing this for decades and have literally never heard of a driver leaving and going to drive for UPS. It obviously doesn’t happen with any frequency for a Ground contractor to care what compensation UPS offers.

 

[MAKAVELI]

I’ve been doing this for decades and have literally never heard of a driver leaving and going to drive for UPS. It obviously doesn’t happen with any frequency for a Ground contractor to care what compensation UPS offers.

And you'd probably be right decades ago. But UPS has just recently started hiring drivers off the street due to increase in volume and retirements.

 

[Star B]

In our area we had multiple drivers leave FXE to go to UPS and start off the street driving as 22.4s

 

[59 Dano]

Turnover is pretty high for ground. How do you know where they're going?

How do you know that turnover is pretty high?