Supervisors working

[UnconTROLLed]

Sad but true.

 

[What'dyabringmetoday???]

I always have.




I thought....

I heard....

Or, somebody told me.


Even @UnconTROLLed says:


"It's my understanding...."

Of course- if you say it doesn't happen then....it doesn't happen. It's a big world out there....Big Guy. Not everything works the same as it does in....Big Union Guy's world. But I'm glad to hear that you....hold employers accountable. Not the same....everywhere.

 

[PT Car Washer]

Of course- if you say it doesn't happen then....it doesn't happen. It's a big world out there....Big Guy. Not everything works the same as it does in....Big Union Guy's world. But I'm glad to hear that you....hold employers accountable. Not the same....everywhere.

The Union makes deals with the company all the time. One of those deals allows sups to do bargaining unit work just as long as it is not excessive.

 

[Boston25]

My understanding locally:The union and UPS made a deal in our building on jam breaking. No more grievances, UPS could use as many jam breakers"" as they want so long as four? hourlies were jam breaking. This is a large hub, it often needs 20. Heh

You should really learn what you are talking about before opening your mouth.

 

[Boston25]

My understanding locally:The union and UPS made a deal in our building on jam breaking. No more grievances, UPS could use as many jam breakers"" as they want so long as four? hourlies were jam breaking. This is a large hub, it often needs 20. Heh

No more grievances? You sure about that?

 

[What'dyabringmetoday???]

The Union makes deals with the company all the time. One of those deals allows sups to do bargaining unit work just as long as it is not excessive.

Excessive- lol.

 

[PASinterference]

Excessive- lol.

Let me guess. Nobody described "excessive" in the deal. Just like "nearby" in the surepost language.

 

[PT Car Washer]

Let me guess. Nobody described "excessive" in the deal. Just like "nearby" in the surepost language.

Let me guess. Nobody described "excessive" in the deal. Just like "nearby" in the surepost language.

I believe it was 20 minutes. Otherwise the company says they are training.

 

[Package Stick]

I believe it was 20 minutes. Otherwise the company says they are training.

I've said it before.

I asked our steward about sups working, he said it's fine in low staffing months.

 

[RolloTony Brown Town]

My understanding locally:The union and UPS made a deal in our building on jam breaking. No more grievances, UPS could use as many jam breakers"" as they want so long as four? hourlies were jam breaking. This is a large hub, it often needs 20. Heh

they do that at my hub also. Hub manager and local union agreed that as long as they have 4 employees on each shift breaking jams then supervisors could as well.

 

[UnconTROLLed]

they do that at my hub also. Hub manager and local union agreed that as long as they have 4 employees on each shift breaking jams then supervisors could as well.

Both of us are lying, though! ;D

 

[RolloTony Brown Town]

Both of us are lying, though! ;D

I remember as a 23 year old pt supervisor I was called in to the division manager’s office...

in his office were the labor Division manager and the business agent. They started asking me about the jam breaking. Then the next week there was an agreement in place where as long as the hub had 4 designated jam breakers then they would allow the supervisors to break jams.

that was back in 2008. They still do it to this day. Stewards walk around at the end of the shift and validate the names of the employees who only broke jams.

 

[Jkloc420]

I remember as a 23 year old pt supervisor I was called in to the division manager’s office...

in his office were the labor Division manager and the business agent. They started asking me about the jam breaking. Then the next week there was an agreement in place where as long as the hub had 4 designated jam breakers then they would allow the supervisors to break jams.

that was back in 2008. They still do it to this day. Stewards walk around at the end of the shift and validate the names of the employees who only broke jams.

are you sure

 

[BigUnionGuy]

The Union makes deals with the company all the time.

Really.

One of those deals allows sups to do bargaining unit work just as long as it is not excessive.

Again.... who has seen this in writing ?

 

[RolloTony Brown Town]

are you sure

Yes

 

[UnconTROLLed]

I remember as a 23 year old pt supervisor I was called in to the division manager’s office...

in his office were the labor Division manager and the business agent. They started asking me about the jam breaking. Then the next week there was an agreement in place where as long as the hub had 4 designated jam breakers then they would allow the supervisors to break jams.

that was back in 2008. They still do it to this day. Stewards walk around at the end of the shift and validate the names of the employees who only broke jams.

What I said earlier, regarding the outcome of the jam breaker situation, came directly from a lead steward. Could they be lying so I didn't file at the time and impose on their personal gravy train? Possibly. That is what the union apologist boneheads were implying; that the union rep lied.

 

[22.34life]

yeah I had a steward say to me "its ok if they're breaking jams on the feed. WTF? They are not supposed to be working. I grieve every time. It's discouraging that I have about 150 hours grieved since last November and I've received 3 hours of grievance pay.

in principle ur right breaking jams is a violation but were all your grievances for breaking jams?imo breaking jams are not iron clad winners.i personally have not seen or heard of anyone getting paid for article 3 if the supervisor was breaking jams.to many other supervisors working that are easy wins,why choose the tough win.

 

[22.34life]

yeah I had a steward say to me "its ok if they're breaking jams on the feed. WTF? They are not supposed to be working. I grieve every time. It's discouraging that I have about 150 hours grieved since last November and I've received 3 hours of grievance pay.

once again dont misunderstand ur stewards advice I'm gonna tell you what u can win not what you should fight.but in the end it's up to the member.

 

[22.34life]

Really.





Again.... who has seen this in writing ?

come on bug the buisness agent and labor manager come to verbal agreements on contractual grey areas,and that's fine

 

[Returntosender]

I've said it before.

I asked our steward about sups working, he said it's fine in low staffing months.

Emergency and Training only!

What are low staffing months? Only December is when they staff appropriately