Termination grievance

[Thebrownblob]

You don't have to have an "elected" position to watch a person walked out the gate, giving up their i.d. and being told "You are being terminated...."

BTW, I've seen almost all of the folks "with the Union representing people" as appointed crony political/bro/sista" paybacks. These folks known as Stewards and Business Agents.......granted they are appointed by "elected" positions.

Now, I'm wrong.....ok. Consider: If the person being terminated did nothing, would they stay "terminated"(meaning lose their job)? So, the effect of being terminated(fired etc).....would be.....yes.......terminated. I'm wrong?

Fascinating

What’s fascinating is that you worked at UPS as long as you did and you do not understand the process, giving up somebody’s ID and walking out the gate does not mean they’re permanently terminated until they go through the process. So yes, you’re wrong and happy Thanksgiving

 

[Brown Down]

Want to take a guess it was an unreported accident or stop completed a package away from the location.

they don't do that much anymore especially to the young drivers giving the company "good" numbers.

 

[Coldworld]

What’s fascinating is that you worked at UPS as long as you did and you do not understand the process, giving up somebody’s ID and walking out the gate does not mean they’re permanently terminated until they go through the process. So yes, you’re wrong and happy Thanksgiving

You REALLY haven’t worked here until they’ve walked you out at least once…it’s a right of passage.

 

[Brown Down]

don't they usually say you are BEING terminated. As in the company is in the process of it. You aren't truly terminated until after the panel hearing. Before that you are suspended without pay. As for being walked out without your id badge etc etc they do the same with cops under investigation, etc etc. They aren't fired yet but they aren't allowed to perfom any duties related to their job.

 

[Thebrownblob]

don't they usually say you are BEING terminated. As in the company is in the process of it. You aren't truly terminated until after the panel hearing. Before that you are suspended without pay. As for being walked out without your id badge etc etc they do the same with cops under investigation, etc etc. They aren't fired yet but they aren't allowed to perfom any duties related to their job.

Taken out of service

 

[Brown Down]

Taken out of service.

Thats the term i was trying to think of. Still not enough coffee this morning.

 

[trickpony1]

You REALLY haven’t worked here until they’ve walked you out at least once…it’s a right of passage.

rite

Homonym helping.

 

[burrheadd]

You don't have to have an "elected" position to watch a person walked out the gate, giving up their i.d. and being told "You are being terminated...."

BTW, I've seen almost all of the folks "with the Union representing people" as appointed crony political/bro/sista" paybacks. These folks known as Stewards and Business Agents.......granted they are appointed by "elected" positions.

Now, I'm wrong.....ok. Consider: If the person being terminated did nothing, would they stay "terminated"(meaning lose their job)? So, the effect of being terminated(fired etc).....would be.....yes.......terminated. I'm wrong?

Fascinating.

Damn, do you ever take a day off from your doom and gloom
Stand down soldier it’s thanksgiving
SMH

 

[Coldworld]

Damn, do you ever take a day off from your doom and gloom
Stand down soldier it’s thanksgiving
SMH

And to top it off he’s retired…free and clear of this joint and he still can’t stop talking about brown the evil empire.

 

[Coldworld]

Because he has nothing better to do. Pathetic life that he just can't walk away and enjoy retirement. He has to keep posting doom and gloom and can't stay away.

Sounds like the guy has all the fun toys so makes no sense why he’s even wasting 1 minute on here with a bunch of random people. Glass 1/2 empty dude no matter on line or in real life. Can’t wait for his witty comeback with a bunch of quotes and a response a mile long.

 

[ZeroHandicapper]

It doesn't matter what the termination was for. But Thank you for asking

It absolutely matters. Its almost like you are not telling us because its a guaranteed termination. Someone who is in the situation should be offering as much information as possible in hopes someone has been through the exact same situation and can offer their advice on how to deal.

 

[qdg2]

Interesting when even a hint of cronyism and corruption is suggested.......

Absolutely true. Racism too.

 

[Brownwind]

Interesting when even a hint of cronyism and corruption is suggested.......

Absolutely true. Racism too.

Enjoy your day off. Call your family and just say hey.

We can get back to it tomorrow.

Stay safe.

 

[qdg2]

Enjoy your day off. Call your family and just say hey.

We can get back to it tomorrow.

Stay safe.

The hate? Personal attacks?

 

[Thebrownblob]

The hate? Personal attacks?

Yes, mostly where you personally attacked union representatives as being Cronies and corrupt. That’s painting with a pretty broad brush with nothing more than your word.

 

[Brownwind]

The hate? Personal attacks?

No hate or attacks ever from this guy.

The thread was going south so I sent my regards and left.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

Yes, mostly where you personally attacked union representatives as being Cronies and corrupt. That’s painting with a pretty broad brush with nothing more than your word.

There is very little possibility he has any first hand knowledge.

Feeder drivers have very little contact with management or other hourlies.

Most of their information.... is 2nd hand.... by word of mouth.

 

[Thebrownblob]

There is very little possibility he has any first hand knowledge.

Feeder drivers have very little contact with management or other hourlies.

Most of their information.... is 2nd hand.... by word of mouth.

Which is the case with pretty much everyone who is not a business agent, labor manager, Center Manager, or Steward.

I’ve went to numerous panels and came back back to the building after someone was terminated, and the rumors that were started without knowing the facts of the case were absolutely hilarious. Start explaining what actually happened and people are like oh that makes sense lol.

I’ve had the opportunity to meet almost all the players on both sides and while I disagree many times with the management side, I would never say either side is involved in cronyism or corruption.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

Which is the case with pretty much everyone who is not a business agent, labor manager, Center Manager, or Steward.

Exactly.

I’ve went to numerous panels and came back back to the building after someone was terminated, and the rumors that were started without knowing the facts of the case were absolutely hilarious. Start explaining what actually happened and people are like oh that makes sense lol.

Yep.

I’ve had the opportunity to meet almost all the players on both sides and while I disagree many times with the management side, I would never say either side is involved in cronyism or corruption.

I have represented members at (literally) 1000's of Local level hearings, hundreds of State Panels, numerous

JAC Panels, and I am (+) 2/3.... at the National Panel. My experience speaks for itself.


I have sat on the (Union side) of panels at UPS and other industries.

I have never witnessed what @qdg2 has described.

 

[Trucker Clock]

The hate? Personal attacks?

Remember this? It was you that said this.

right....Retired....

Why are you on BC? Serious question......relevance?