Terrorists

[The Other Side]

Wasn't it Reagan who armed the terrorists in Iran via the Iran/Contra scandal? Yo have a short memory.

Reagan not only ARMED Iran, he also ARMED IRAQ and rebels in EL SALVADOR that ended up costings tens of thosands of innocent lives.

The republicans have armed many terrorists around the world only to force the USA to go back and clean it up.

TOS.

 

[rickyb]

at least your half right. better than being in total denial about your governments activities.

 

[moreluck]

god ur as bad as TOS

why? I don't have solar panels!!

 

[newfie]

Don't forget Eisenhower, Nixon and Bush Sr. They all did as well. Truman may be missing from the list as well, but in a more tangential way.

I've got six posts in a row marked disagree by this tieguy. Is somebody having a little itty bitty hissy fitty. haha. you must be a 10 year old kid.

 

[NonyaBiznes]

And just think:

You will soon be the "minority"; your grandchildren/great grandchildren will be okay, however. Hell, they'll probably marry a Muslim and there's nothing you can do about it.

They will grow up to be, more tolerant of others. If not, the majority will be happy to "do an attitude adjustment!" Or maybe history will repeat itself; the majority will just wipe out, the minorities.

Tah Dah.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

And just think:

You will soon be the "minority"; your grandchildren/great grandchildren will be okay, however. Hell, they'll probably marry a Muslim and there's nothing you can do about it.

They will grow up to be, more tolerant of others. If not, the majority will be happy to "do an attitude adjustment!" Or maybe history will repeat itself; the majority will just wipe out, the minorities.

Tah Dah.

 

[Work safe or not at all.]

Why are they called "job creators"?

 

[JL 0513]

Why are they called "job creators"?

Lack of a better term?

One who opens, creates, or grows a business which requires hired people is a job creator, are they not?

 

[rickyb]

Why are they called "job creators"?

its a propaganda term.

 

[JL 0513]

its a propaganda term.

There are 150 million people employed in the US. Your saying those aren't jobs that were created? All existing jobs have been there since the earth was formed. And we all are eternal beings who have been at the same job since humanity started.

 

[newfie]

this is just a strange thread and i find it hard to believe that people have different view on something so simple as job creation.

have you figured out that you are probably not in the same time zone or dimension as the rest of us?

 

[rickyb]

There are 150 million people employed in the US. Your saying those aren't jobs that were created? All existing jobs have been there since the earth was formed. And we all are eternal beings who have been at the same job since humanity started.

no im saying this was likely a very well thought over term. its not a coincidence, its a consequence.

you can call also them employers, capitalists, economic dictators, etc. slave masters were also job creators...ditto for communist dictatorships.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

There are 150 million people employed in the US. Your saying those aren't jobs that were created? All existing jobs have been there since the earth was formed. And we all are eternal beings who have been at the same job since humanity started.

The propaganda part comes into play when people act like "job creators" are doing people a favor.
Employers NEED workers and workers NEED employers. No one is doing anyone any favors.

 

[teamer]

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The propaganda part comes into play when people act like "job creators" are doing people a favor.
Employers NEED workers and workers NEED employers. No one is doing anyone any favors.

I don't think the intent to create jobs was ever an issue.

they are still job creators if they start a business that results in their needing employees to work that business.

business abc is started and soon hires 10 people to work the business. that would be 10 jobs that were created as a result of starting business ABC.
now obviously the intent was to start a business and make money. In the process though that business owner created 10 jobs. thus a job creator.

hope that helps.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

I don't think the intent to create jobs was ever an issue.

Well that's what we're talking about.
Companies get massive tax breaks under the auspices of doing society a favor by creating jobs.
They NEED workers, they're not doing anyone any favors.
They "create" jobs, often near minimum wage, and the employees end up paying more in taxes than the employer who is making millions. It's a huge scam.

Hope that helps.

 

[newfie]

Well that's what we're talking about.
Companies get massive tax breaks under the auspices of doing society a favor by creating jobs.
They NEED workers, they're not doing anyone any favors.
They "create" jobs, often near minimum wage, and the employees end up paying more in taxes than the employer who is making millions. It's a huge scam.

Hope that helps.

what massive tax breaks are you referring to?

targeted tax breaks? small business incentives?

 

[moreluck]

 

[ImWaitingForTheDay]

Reagan not only ARMED Iran, he also ARMED IRAQ and rebels in EL SALVADOR that ended up costings tens of thosands of innocent lives.

The republicans have armed many terrorists around the world only to force the USA to go back and clean it up.

TOS.

 

[teamer]

in this conversation, glenn greenwald mentions that in 2003 donald rumsfeld paid rand corporation for a study on the middle east asking the question "why do they hate americans?"

the answer was (no suprise!) "policy of the US government"

the love us when ISIS is brutalizing their people. All of a sudden all you hear is America come help us

 

[teamer]

little white out and you can do this for Obama too.