The 2024 Presidential Race Thread

[rickyb]

The difference is the entire Soviet Union, hundreds of millions of people, had that. And much worse than anything going on in America today. You buy into a fantasy that there's a perfect world out there to be had for the taking. There isn't.

you buy into the fantasy that workers taking orders from bosses and being profited off of, is the best we can do...

when they look up polls of i forget east EU countries or russia, and ask the people do you prefer life now under capitalism or before under state communism, they prefer the former.

 

[vantexan]

you buy into the fantasy that workers taking orders from bosses and being profited off of, is the best we can do...

when they look up polls of i forget east EU countries or russia, and ask the people do you prefer life now under capitalism or before under state communism, they prefer the former.

Some prefer the former. Vast majority don't. Traveled through 4 former Soviet republics. Was told everywhere how much they hated the Russians. The Russians took everything for themselves. They still have it tough in many places but it's much better for most now. Think where they would be if they had capitalism all those years. They'd be comparable to the U.S. and Western Europe. I saw for myself, not listened to a bunch of Western liberals who think they know what's best for everyone else.

 

[rickyb]

Some prefer the former. Vast majority don't. Traveled through 4 former Soviet republics. Was told everywhere how much they hated the Russians. The Russians took everything for themselves. They still have it tough in many places but it's much better for most now. Think where they would be if they had capitalism all those years. They'd be comparable to the U.S. and Western Europe. I saw for myself, not listened to a bunch of Western liberals who think they know what's best for everyone else.

this was a poll years ago that richard wolff quoted

capitalism turns our people and culture into a mall - and it sucks! all superficial and no substance

 

[vantexan]

this was a poll years ago that richard wolff quoted

capitalism turns our people and culture into a mall - and it sucks! all superficial and no substance

Substance is found everywhere. But it's a free society ricky. You can't force people to buy into your idea of what substance is.

 

[rickyb]

Substance is found everywhere. But it's a free society ricky. You can't force people to buy into your idea of what substance is.

no theres little substance and were not free. its mostly superficial appearances. lies. we take orders 40 hours a week. this is not freedom.

 

[vantexan]

no theres little substance and were not free. its mostly superficial appearances. lies. we take orders 40 hours a week. this is not freedom.

You're free to take whatever job you're qualified for or walk away from it. Try that in the Soviet Union. Just because you have no substance in your life because you want everything easy doesn't mean that's the same for everyone.

 

[Box Ox]

we take orders 40 hours a week

You do? Hope you’ve got a driver to get you home safely. Don’t want you falling asleep at the wheel like we talked about before.

 

[vantexan]

You do? Hope you’ve got a driver to get you home safely. Don’t want you falling asleep at the wheel like we talked about before.

I thought he slept on the job?

 

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Joe Rogan: Hamburgers are good but I am trying to eat less pork.
Guest: Hamburgers are made with beef.
Joe Rogan: Ham is from pork it says ham in hamburger.
Guest: It is beef.
Joe Rogan: That’s not what I’ve heard; Jamie look that up.
Jamie: It's beef.
Guest: It's beef.
Joe: Ok. But can we really trust hamburger makers and butchers and grocery stores when the word ham is in hamburger and ham means pork?
Joe Rogan Fans: This is why I like him. He is good at thinking.

Wow no one got censored or argued. Interesting.

 

[Thebrownblob]

All that doesn't matter. He threw out the theory, many agree with it. Some in the deep state or his own party are working against him.

So, are you telling me that hamburgers really are made with ham?

 

[rickyb]

You're free to take whatever job you're qualified for or walk away from it. Try that in the Soviet Union. Just because you have no substance in your life because you want everything easy doesn't mean that's the same for everyone.

i agree we are free to walk away from corporate dictatorships. but this isnt freedom.

 

[rickyb]

You do? Hope you’ve got a driver to get you home safely. Don’t want you falling asleep at the wheel like we talked about before.

capitalism externalizes safety of the public

its illegal to drive tired. but you cant expect workers to pay for cabs either.

 

[rickyb]

You do? Hope you’ve got a driver to get you home safely. Don’t want you falling asleep at the wheel like we talked about before.

if you support drinking and driving, then you support people driving tired

 

[vantexan]

i agree we are free to walk away from corporate dictatorships. but this isnt freedom.

Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose.

 

[rickyb]

Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose.

freedom is participation in power

we have little power on the job

thats great you get to quit jobs, but that doesn't mean you are free.

 

[Box Ox]

You do? Hope you’ve got a driver to get you home safely. Don’t want you falling asleep at the wheel like we talked about before.

if you support drinking and driving, then you support people driving tired

Where’d the drinking and driving thing come from?

 

[rickyb]

Where’d the drinking and driving thing come from?

whats teh difference between driving after a night shift and drinking n driving?

 

[Box Ox]

whats teh difference between driving after a night shift and drinking n driving?

The difference is obvious unless you have a serious medical condition. Are you getting enough sleep, comrade? Cut down on the evil capitalist Xbox so you can work an 8 hour shift safely.

 

[rickyb]

The difference is obvious unless you have a serious medical condition. Are you getting enough sleep, comrade? Cut down on the evil capitalist Xbox so you can work an 8 hour shift safely.

i drive better drunk than i do after a night shift. both are illegal

why do you support illegal activities?

 

[Box Ox]

i drive better drunk than i do after a night shift. both are illegal

why do you support illegal activities?

I guess it makes sense that having to work for 8 hours could wreck you as badly as driving drunk. I’ve never had that experience myself.

And I’m not making you break any laws. Where in Canadian law is driving after 8 hours of work described as illegal anyway?

Get more sleep, comrade. Less CCP fan club and more beddy with the teddy.