The 2024 Presidential Race Thread

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
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Wally

BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns
It'd be an epic disaster for Democrats if he does stay in. Biden is bad enough on his own but now he's also been fully skunked by the media and his own party, including its big donors.
Once the smoke clears, the elite,only for themselves- Dems will have no choice but to support Sleepy Joe.
 

DELACROIX

In the Spirit of Honore' Daumier
It'd be an epic disaster for Democrats if he does stay in. Biden is bad enough on his own but now he's also been fully skunked by the media and his own party, including its big donors.

If he stays in how are they going to cover up the lack of enthusiasm on the convention floor. It would look like a funeral, remember Biden himself will be on full display. Potentially a worst case scenario. He may even use the excuse about Trump’s continuous shouting. Too late now maybe ?
 

oldngray

nowhere special
If he stays in how are they going to cover up the lack of enthusiasm on the convention floor. It would look like a funeral, remember Biden himself will be on full display. Potentially a worst case scenario. He may even use the excuse about Trump’s continuous shouting. Too late now maybe ?
Joe will use the Covid excuse to hide at home and send a carefully edited video to be played at the convention
 

Doublestandards

Well-Known Member
It'd be an epic disaster for Democrats if he does stay in. Biden is bad enough on his own but now he's also been fully skunked by the media and his own party, including its big donors.
Very true. Democrats biggest gift to them is that trump is running. Most people aren’t voting for Biden at this point, they’re voting against trump
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Very true. Democrats biggest gift to them is that trump is running. Most people aren’t voting for Biden at this point, they’re voting against trump
After four years of Biden and far Left extremist policies they'll vote for Trump for normalcy or they'll stay home. If Harris is your nominee you can bet a lot of Dems will stay home. And if they do a lot of Democratic Congressmen and Senators are going to lose. You need a credible nominee to insure you have at least a chance and people will come out but with the exception of a couple of low name recognition governors who else do the Dems have that are credible contenders? If you were smart you'd ask Joe Manchin to step in but your far Left wouldn't have him. Your policies, including putting Harris on the ticket because she ticked off certain boxes instead of being real presidential material, have painted you into a corner. It's likely you won't agree with this but it certainly looks like Dems are agreeing amongst themselves that Joe has to go. Do you think Gavin Newsom with his record in California has a chance? Voting for someone on looks and not substance is a major reason you're trapped in that corner. Maybe you should put up someone the Squad approves of and test whether the U.S. wants what they represent over Trump. If you aren't willing to do that then aren't you admitting their far Left agenda doesn't work?
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
After four years of Biden and far Left extremist policies they'll vote for Trump for normalcy or they'll stay home. If Harris is your nominee you can bet a lot of Dems will stay home. And if they do a lot of Democratic Congressmen and Senators are going to lose. You need a credible nominee to insure you have at least a chance and people will come out but with the exception of a couple of low name recognition governors who else do the Dems have that are credible contenders? If you were smart you'd ask Joe Manchin to step in but your far Left wouldn't have him. Your policies, including putting Harris on the ticket because she ticked off certain boxes instead of being real presidential material, have painted you into a corner. It's likely you won't agree with this but it certainly looks like Dems are agreeing amongst themselves that Joe has to go. Do you think Gavin Newsom with his record in California has a chance? Voting for someone on looks and not substance is a major reason you're trapped in that corner. Maybe you should put up someone the Squad approves of and test whether the U.S. wants what they represent over Trump. If you aren't willing to do that then aren't you admitting their far Left agenda doesn't work?
If they had anyone better than Biden they would have replaced him already.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
If they had anyone better than Biden they would have replaced him already.
If they can make a mist on a mirror they're already more viable than Biden. The question is do enough people want more of the same Biden was selling? And do they trust the Dems because Biden was sold as a moderate and he's anything but. Primarily Biden hasn't been replaced yet because Harris would be an epic disaster. But if Biden decides to not seek re-election, and releases his delegates, then they can have one heck of a contentious convention. They'll just have to sell the idea that the nominee can't be Harris because she can't win. Maybe pay her off under the table to say something like if Joe's not running then she's stepping down too out of respect for him or some such.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Nonsense.
Biden got more votes than anyone ever in the most secure election ever. I'm sure he'll do great.
I know you're being facetious but there's no cover up this time of his cognitive decline or Hunter's issues. I would love to see him stay in just for the satisfaction of seeing Trump beat him that badly. Which is exactly why the Dems are scrambling in panic now.
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
I'm hearing that he doesn't want any part of it at this point. Maybe not good to board a rapidly sinking ship and go down with it if you might have aspirations for 2028.
gavin should run to vet his negatives. that gives him a fresh start in 4 years assuming he does not screw anything else up in the meantime
 

Doublestandards

Well-Known Member
After four years of Biden and far Left extremist policies they'll vote for Trump for normalcy or they'll stay home. If Harris is your nominee you can bet a lot of Dems will stay home. And if they do a lot of Democratic Congressmen and Senators are going to lose. You need a credible nominee to insure you have at least a chance and people will come out but with the exception of a couple of low name recognition governors who else do the Dems have that are credible contenders? If you were smart you'd ask Joe Manchin to step in but your far Left wouldn't have him. Your policies, including putting Harris on the ticket because she ticked off certain boxes instead of being real presidential material, have painted you into a corner. It's likely you won't agree with this but it certainly looks like Dems are agreeing amongst themselves that Joe has to go. Do you think Gavin Newsom with his record in California has a chance? Voting for someone on looks and not substance is a major reason you're trapped in that corner. Maybe you should put up someone the Squad approves of and test whether the U.S. wants what they represent over Trump. If you aren't willing to do that then aren't you admitting their far Left agenda doesn't work?
I don’t think newsom would be good right now, probably better off someone from the Midwest

I’m curious what far left extremist policies of Bidens are you referencing?
 
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