The 2024 Presidential Race Thread

govols019

You smell that?
That second paragraph is almost a direct quote from Trump. Good memory.

According to CPB, these people were vetted and authorized to travel here. They did what was asked of them and paid their own way. Sounds legal to me.




"Each month, U.S. Customs and Border Protection discloses how many people from these four countries were allowed to enter the country. On Jan. 26, the agency reported 327,000 were vetted and authorized for travel. There were more than 67,000 Cubans, 126,000 Haitians, 53,000 Nicaraguans and 81,000 Venezuelans "
 

vantexan

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That second paragraph is almost a direct quote from Trump. Good memory.

According to CPB, these people were vetted and authorized to travel here. They did what was asked of them and paid their own way. Sounds legal to me.




"Each month, U.S. Customs and Border Protection discloses how many people from these four countries were allowed to enter the country. On Jan. 26, the agency reported 327,000 were vetted and authorized for travel. There were more than 67,000 Cubans, 126,000 Haitians, 53,000 Nicaraguans and 81,000 Venezuelans "
They were vetted? Venezuela turned out its prisons. We have Venezuelan gangs operating here now. And it's not legal immigration to cross over the border and ask for asylum. Nothing close to our legal immigration system. And it would be impossible to check records at the border. They are letting in men who have committed rape and murder here. And no time in our history have we let more than ten million people into the country in less than four years. Nowhere close.
 

vantexan

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Presidential immunity
Doesn't apply to Mayorkas. And the way to cure presidents from breaking the law is impeachment. Assuming that the Constitution is upheld. All else fails then vote them out. Assuming that their Party and its voters are interested in upholding the Constitution. Democratic voters seem more interested in getting in enough eventual new voters that they'll control future elections. What's a few rapes and murders here and there?
 

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Article behind a firewall. But all the people let in illegally have been given the right to be here by the administration. But don't tell me they're all vetted. We've got a lot of criminals that have come in too, and some of our citizens have paid a terrible price for it. Does that matter to you? Does shelling.out billions to support millions of people matter to you?
These people are here legally.
As has been the case for a couple of hundred years people fleeing oppression and seeking a better life came here . They are no different than the Italians, Irish, English or Germans who preceded them in years past.
 

PT Car Washer

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These aren't legal immigrants. Legal immigrants apply at our embassies and consulates in their home countries. They provide their police and health records that are verified. They pass tests. And then they wait until they are approved and given the necessary documentation to enter.

In 2023 alone the Biden administration flew 325,000 people.from countries in Latin America to 46 different airports around the country. Bypassed the border altogether. They ate breaking the law but the.Attorney General won't prosecute them for it. And if the House impeaches then Chuck Schumer shuts it down in the Senate.

Do you care about the rule of law and.what is actually legal immigration?
That was the Texas Governor flying his illegals all over the country and dumping them. At tax payer expense.
 

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These aren't legal immigrants. Legal immigrants apply at our embassies and consulates in their home countries. They provide their police and health records that are verified. They pass tests. And then they wait until they are approved and given the necessary documentation to enter.

In 2023 alone the Biden administration flew 325,000 people.from countries in Latin America to 46 different airports around the country. Bypassed the border altogether. They ate breaking the law but the.Attorney General won't prosecute them for it. And if the House impeaches then Chuck Schumer shuts it down in the Senate.

Do you care about the rule of law and.what is actually legal immigration?
Don’t you care about legal immigrants bettering themselves?
We all know why you don’t support the Hatians.
 

Box Ox

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Article behind a firewall. But all the people let in illegally have been given the right to be here by the administration. But don't tell me they're all vetted. We've got a lot of criminals that have come in too, and some of our citizens have paid a terrible price for it. Does that matter to you? Does shelling.out billions to support millions of people matter to you?
These people are here legally.
As has been the case for a couple of hundred years people fleeing oppression and seeking a better life came here . They are no different than the Italians, Irish, English or Germans who preceded them in years past.
Don’t you care about legal immigrants bettering themselves?

Homeland Security extends temporary protected status for Haitians - The Washington Post

June 28, 2024

"In all, more than half a million Haitians, including many immigrants without legal status in the United States, will be shielded from deportation through Feb. 3, 2026, federal records show, part of a Biden administration expansion of the use of its executive powers to aid immigrants."
 

vantexan

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That was the Texas Governor flying his illegals all over the country and dumping them. At tax payer expense.
Nope. The Texas governor bused them to primarily NYC, Chicago, and Washington, D.C. Not only was the Federal government flying them all over the country but early on they were doing secret flights in the middle of the night. And your nominee likes to claim that they've got border crossings way down but what she fails to say is that most crossings were on the Texas border and the Texas governor defied Washington and shut his border down. Which the Federal government has sued him over to try and keep the illegal immigrants flowing in.
 

PT Car Washer

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Doesn't apply to Mayorkas. And the way to cure presidents from breaking the law is impeachment. Assuming that the Constitution is upheld. All else fails then vote them out. Assuming that their Party and its voters are interested in upholding the Constitution. Democratic voters seem more interested in getting in enough eventual new voters that they'll control future elections. What's a few rapes and murders here and there?
We impeached trump twice and voted him out of office but the Republicans keep bringing him back.
 

PT Car Washer

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Nope. The Texas governor bused them to primarily NYC, Chicago, and Washington, D.C. Not only was the Federal government flying them all over the country but early on they were doing secret flights in the middle of the night. And your nominee likes to claim that they've got border crossings way down but what she fails to say is that most crossings were on the Texas border and the Texas governor defied Washington and shut his border down. Which the Federal government has sued him over to try and keep the illegal immigrants flowing in.
Open your eyes and quit drinking the MAGA Kool-Aid.
 

vantexan

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These people are here legally.
As has been the case for a couple of hundred years people fleeing oppression and seeking a better life came here . They are no different than the Italians, Irish, English or Germans who preceded them in years past.
Economic immigration is much different than fleeing war zones. If everyone is so oppressed in over 160 countries then why are most of their citizens staying home rather than coming here? We have a legal immigration system that takes in close to a million people a year. Why are you opposed to people doing it the right way, who are thoroughly checked out to keep criminals and terrorists from entering? And in no time in our past have so many entered the country and most of them don't have more than manual labor skills or are able to speak English. We're spending billions monthly to keep them afloat.
 

vantexan

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Don’t you care about legal immigrants bettering themselves?
We all know why you don’t support the Hatians.
I don't support bringing in a huge population from any country that must be supported by our government at taxpayer expense. By the way many diseases that have been controlled in the U.S. are rampant in Haiti. Should we have to see a huge uptick in tuberculosis or AIDS just so some can thump their chests that they aren't racists?
 

Appvol

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January 6th.
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I don't support bringing in a huge population from any country that must be supported by our government at taxpayer expense. By the way many diseases that have been controlled in the U.S. are rampant in Haiti. Should we have to see a huge uptick in tuberculosis or AIDS just so some can thump their chests that they aren't racists?
They immigrated here legally and are no different than the Germans, Italians, English or Irish that preceded them coming to this country for a better life.
We know why you don’t support having the Hatianans legally immigrate. 👍
 
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