The 2024 Presidential Race Thread

newfie

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It's not funny and it is a big deal. The Haitians just trying to get by are scared and they've told us so. It's inhumane to spread all this hate towards them.
Haitians were dumped en masse into a small town in ohio and given significant cash and support that actually moved them ahead of the food chain in that area.

there is no getting by they are at the top of the economic ladder in that area.
 
Trump makes some people feel positive feelings about their own negative feelings of hatred. These strong feelings make people ignore the outrageous and stupid things he says.
The hateful rhetoric is being pumped into the public. Amongst the half dozen or so MSM outlets, only one is obviously right-leaning. The left has a lot of influential opportunity, yet there's as much hate shown by their side.

Stop pretending all of this intolerance and hate is simply a product of the right. And stop pretending every republican voter is a far-right MAGA voter. And stop pretending democrats across decades haven't made accusations of stolen elections.

Your rhetoric is as bad as MSM. Republican politicians suck. Democrat politicians suck. It's just what we're stuck with.
 

Next Day Err

Well-Known Member
The hateful rhetoric is being pumped into the public. Amongst the half dozen or so MSM outlets, only one is obviously right-leaning. The left has a lot of influential opportunity, yet there's as much hate shown by their side.

Stop pretending all of this intolerance and hate is simply a product of the right. And stop pretending every republican voter is a far-right MAGA voter. And stop pretending democrats across decades haven't made accusations of stolen elections.

Your rhetoric is as bad as MSM. Republican politicians suck. Democrat politicians suck. It's just what we're stuck with.
I’m intolerant of a political party that scapegoats the powerless.
 

vantexan

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There is nothing unprecedented in recent decades about close presidential elections—in fact, they’re almost always close these days—and there is also nothing new in a delay in finding out the winner. Over the last 40 years, seven presidential elections have dragged on past Election Day. What is unprecedented is a candidate like donald announcing his victory before votes have all been counted.
Is there a precedent for only the swing states to drag on past Election Day? In 2020 Blue states and Red states were done by Election Day but mysteriously wherever the count was close it went considerably past that Tuesday.
 

Darmark7

Retired 2020. Not my Problem Anymore!
Is there a precedent for only the swing states to drag on past Election Day? In 2020 Blue states and Red states were done by Election Day but mysteriously wherever the count was close it went considerably past that Tuesday.

Amazingly America Got Talent and shows like them can get millions of votes counted during a commecial break but our elections takes weeks.
 

Darmark7

Retired 2020. Not my Problem Anymore!
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Next Day Err

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AUDIENCE QUESTION: Thank you so much for coming to Michigan. My name is Ashley and I work at the Chrysler plant. Like many auto workers, I am deeply concerned about the future of our industry. With many jobs being outsourced as we speak, what action will you take to ensure that our jobs stay in America so we can continue to build the best cars in the world here in Michigan?

DONALD TRUMP: So, pretty much as we’ve been saying, and what I want to do is I want to be able to — Look, your business — Years ago in this area, I was honored as the man of the year. It was maybe 20 years ago. Oh, and the fake news heard about it. They said, it never happened. It never happened. And I didn’t know who it was. It was a group that honored me as man of the year. The fakers back there, see the fake news. But they said — They said, oh — And they looked and, you know, they said it never happened. But I said, I swear to you, it happened.

It did happen. I was man of the year. And I came and I made a speech and I said, why do you allow them to take your car business away? Why do you allow it to happen? They’re taking your business away. And I didn’t know too much about it. All I know is they were taking your car industry away from you. They said it never happened.

And lo and behold, somebody said, I remember the event. And then we found out and we had everything. We got the awards. We had everything. It did happen. But I gave a speech, which at the time was pretty controversial. We can’t let them take your car business away. It’s such an important business.

And you know it’s an important business even in times of war where they switch over. And it was really something. And I looked at that speech from, I don’t know, it’s like 19, 20 years ago. And I could repeat it now without changing a word.

You cannot let foreign countries, and a lot of the times our worst foes are our so-called friends, okay? You know, our friends, the European Union takes tremendous advantage of us. As an example, they give us cars by the millions. We don’t have too many Chevrolets in the middle of European cities, okay? European Union is brutal. They don’t take our farm products for the most part. They don’t take a lot. But unlike Kamala, who always complains and doesn’t do anything, I keep saying, why don’t you do?

I saw Marsha the other day. Why doesn’t she, why didn’t she do it four years ago almost? And I say that, you know, she’s on the border today trying just to, what a day for the border. She goes to the border today, and they just announced just before she got up to speak that more than 13,000 murderers from jail, solitary confinement people in many cases, were released.

But I just say, let’s go back. So we can’t let them take our businesses. And we’re not gonna let them take our businesses. And you can control that so easily through good policy. Not her kind of policy, by the way. She changed her policy 15 times. No fracking. Oh, I like fracking. Defund the police. She wants to defund the police. Now, oh, I love the police all of a sudden. By the way, when anybody is into defunding the police even for a day during their career, they can no longer serve as President of the United States, I can tell you.

So we’re not gonna let them take our businesses. And really, a lot of that’s determined by our taxation policy. When China has to pay all that money, the people that liked me the best were the steel companies because I saved them. They were dumping China and others, but mostly China was dumping steel in here at levels that nobody had ever seen before.

And it was putting the steel companies out of business. I put a 50% and 100% tax on the dumping of steel and the steel companies thrived. I saved them, and you have to have the steel companies. So we’ll do the same thing.

And you don’t worry about it. Here’s what you have to do. I only ask you to do one thing, and then you can sleep beautifully all night long, go to a job you love, and get a lot of money at the end of the week. You know what the thing is? Vote for Trump. If you vote for Trump, everything’s gonna be perfect.
 
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