The 2024 Presidential Race Thread

Doublestandards

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In my opinion, it does matter, but generally speaking civilized society has decided around 20 to 22 weeks is when the fetus is outside of the womb.

@Next Day Err definition is the no baby is viable because every baby has to have someone to take care of for the first dozen years of life.

Stop feeding and caring for a two or three-year-old and see how viable they are.
@Next Day Err position is no different than a lot of women’s position, maybe most, including Trumps wife Melania. She believes the government has no place in it whatsoever at any stage

The fact is, women are not going to wait until the end stages to get a pregnancy? Why would they? It’s hard on the body and not an easy decision
 

Next Day Err

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In my opinion, it does matter, but generally speaking civilized society has decided around 20 to 22 weeks is when the fetus is outside of the womb.

@Next Day Err definition is the no baby is viable because every baby has to have someone to take care of for the first dozen years of life.

Stop feeding and caring for a two or three-year-old and see how viable they are.
The difference being, of course, that anyone can feed and care for a child after her birth. Only during gestation can the woman herself make for a viable place for the fetus to survive.

I say we mind our own business.
 

Doublestandards

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Yeah, it’s crazy that Trump was talking about one person politically, but Joe Biden was talking about half the voting population of America. Silly to get upset about right?

Worked out great for Hillary too!
Who would’ve thought the October surprise would’ve been given by the sitting President of the United States?
He wasn’t talking about one person directly “he’s not a war hero. He was a war hero because he was caught? I like people who didn’t get caught”
 

Thebrownblob

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@Next Day Err position is no different than a lot of women’s position, maybe most, including Trumps wife Melania. She believes the government has no place in it whatsoever at any stage

The fact is, women are not going to wait until the end stages to get a pregnancy? Why would they? It’s hard on the body and not an easy decision
Who cares what Melania trumps position is? She probably believes a lot of things you don’t believe so you’re going to pick and choose this one lol come on man get real. 🤷‍♂️
 

DELACROIX

In the Spirit of Honore' Daumier
So will there be outrage over Bidens racist comment tonight from MSM. There is a diverse of races that support Trump.

Yeah, it’s crazy that Trump was talking about one person politically, but Joe Biden was talking about half the voting population of America. Silly to get upset about right?

Worked out great for Hillary too!
Who would’ve thought the October surprise would’ve been given by the sitting President of the United States?

I still remember just after the first assassination attempt..some idiot political hack went on line and posted “he should have been a better shot”. True she got canned but I imagine the rest of the Trump haters where thinking the same thing, they were not stupid enough to believe that they could get by with it…The hate and racism for half the country runs deep in the Biden administration.
 

Thebrownblob

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The difference being, of course, that anyone can feed and care for a child after her birth. Only during gestation can the woman herself make for a viable place for the fetus to survive.

I say we mind our own business.
If you’re talking about very very early pregnancy probably. There’s lots of babies that have lived being born prematurely. And very early. But really we’re not even arguing about that because most states allow at those stages. Maybe you should just stay out of the business of other states? You got a vote in your state you have to worry about.

Maybe we should just mind our own business when people do all all kinds of murders?
 

Thebrownblob

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I still remember just after the first assassination attempt..some idiot political hack went on line and posted “he should have been a better shot”. True she got canned but I imagine the rest of the Trump haters where thinking the same thing, they were not stupid enough to believe that they could get by with it…The hate and racism for half the country runs deep in the Biden administration.
Well, this is why the left is currently losing their outrageous always fake. They prove it over and over again by the actions they take when it’s their turn to do something. Just like Biden did last night.
 

Doublestandards

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She probably believes a lot of things you don’t believe so you’re going to pick and choose this one lol come on man get real. 🤷‍♂️
that’s exactly my point. DIDO likes to say things like “your party supports”, when the fact is, when the wife of the presidential candidate of the Republican Party is coming out during the election and saying she believes the same exact position, this is a bigger issue to women than just a “democrat” issue like he’s portraying.
 

Thebrownblob

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that’s exactly my point. DIDO likes to say things like “your party supports”, when the fact is, when the wife of the presidential candidate of the Republican Party is coming out during the election and saying she believes the same exact position, this is a bigger issue to women than just a “democrat” issue like he’s portraying.
So your arguments with him? Lol I don’t even know what you’re trying to say here. Trump is not a conservative Republican and he never has been. Trump is actually what Democrats have said they wish Republicans would be for many years. He’s very malleable on the subject..
 

oldngray

nowhere special
So your arguments with him? Lol I don’t even know what you’re trying to say here. Trump is not a conservative Republican and he never has been. Trump is actually what Democrats have said they wish Republicans would be for many years. He’s very malleable on the subject..
Trump is a Populist and not a member of the Uniparty. He is an outsider the swamp hates.
 

Thebrownblob

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The difference being, of course, that anyone can feed and care for a child after her birth. Only during gestation can the woman herself make for a viable place for the fetus to survive.

I say we mind our own business.
And come to think of it the hypocrisy coming out of you right now is absolutely stunning. You have absolutely zero credibility when it comes telling people to staying out of other peoples business medically. Mr. vaccine mandate. Yes you said you shouldn’t have said it, but you definitely wished people dead.

You really should just know your place on the issue of staying out of peoples business.,

Go try that on Reddit, where they don’t know your history.
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
that’s exactly my point. DIDO likes to say things like “your party supports”,
Yes because your entire party voted to legalize abortion up to the moment of birth.
when the fact is, when the wife of the presidential candidate of the Republican Party is coming out during the election and saying she believes the same exact position
REEEEEEE
Trump
REEEEEEE
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
You’ve said yourself you believe a fetus is a baby from week 1.
Pretty clear you have no idea what you're talking about.
Are you saying you no longer believe a fetus before 15 weeks is a baby? Or that you just don’t care before 15 weeks?

If a fetus is a baby no matter the stage, what difference does it make to you whether an abortion happens at 14 weeks, 15 weeks or 20 weeks?
This is why I say you have no idea what you're talking about.

If you don't even know the difference between an embryo and a fetus maybe you should sit out of the conversation.
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
but you said a fetus is a baby, no matter the stages.
And then you started talking about week one.
Which is not a fetus.

You're in over your head.
We get it, you're fine with killing babies until during birth and if they survive you're fine with letting them die. It's what your party voted for, it's what you support.

Let's just agree to disagree and move on.
 

Thebrownblob

Well-Known Member
but you said a fetus is a baby, no matter the stages. So what difference does it make to the baby whether it’s being killed at 14 weeks or 16 weeks?
I said “I”said that. I don’t get to make the rules, pay attention. I said civilized society in general has made a decision of around 20 to 22 weeks.

You appealed to me with some silly argument about what Trump’s wife wants. I could care less about Trump’s wife or Trump.

Marijuana is federally illegal. Does that mean it’s a good law? Don’t confuse people in power who have the authority with people in power who have the right. Authority isn’t always right.
 

Doublestandards

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And then you started talking about week one.
Which is not a fetus.

You're in over your head.
We get it, you're fine with killing babies until during birth and if they survive you're fine with letting them die. It's what your party voted for, it's what you support.

Let's just agree to disagree and move on.
Ok so let’s go with the 8 weeks then where it’s considered a fetus

Your party supports killing babies. They said they will do a national abortion ban at 15 weeks. So from 8-14 weeks killing babies is okay?
 

Doublestandards

Well-Known Member
I said “I”said that. I don’t get to make the rules, pay attention. I said civilized society in general has made a decision of around 20 to 22 weeks.

You appealed to me with some silly argument about what Trump’s wife wants. I could care less about Trump’s wife or Trump.

Marijuana is federally illegal. Does that mean it’s a good law? Don’t confuse people in power who have the authority with people in power who have the right. Authority isn’t always right.
I was talking about dido not you
 
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