The anti-woke movement

[rickyb]

Whether a decision is rational or not depends on the individual circumstances. A rational car purchase for one could be irrational for another.

Yes.

cars are irrational because theyre inefficient compared to public transport since as we know its usually 1 person to a car.

advertisements undermine market principles by promoting irrational decisions for example buy a mercedez SUV or hummer SUV or any SUV when really all you need is a sedan and btw you should have public transport.

 

[rickyb]

That should make you happy.

i think it was a good thing actually, but bad for US empire.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

The only difference is, you have no capacity to change. You’re a product of a woke education. You’re brainwashed.

I don't think that's a fair assessment. He used to be against personal responsibility, now he's for it.

 

[UnionStrong]

Yep, all press secretaries are the same. So it's racism that'll be to blame when things head south for Karine Jean-Pierre. The first thing the talking heads on CNN and MSNBC will mention if she ever gets the boot. "The American public was just too racist to accept a black lesbian White House press secretary."

She’ll get promoted

 

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cars are irrational because theyre inefficient compared to public transport since as we know its usually 1 person to a car.

Cars are rational because they give us freedom of movement without having to depend on, or schedule around, public transit.

They enable me to have a good job at a gold mine to which no public transit exists.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

cars are irrational because theyre inefficient compared to public transport since as we know its usually 1 person to a car.

advertisements undermine market principles by promoting irrational decisions for example buy a mercedez SUV or hummer SUV or any SUV when really all you need is a sedan and btw you should have public transport.

That depends on an individual's circumstances. If it takes you two hours and 5 transfers to get 5 miles across town, that's not efficient for you. If you need to pick up 100 lbs of groceries, taking public transit is a terrible idea.

 

[Box Ox]

Yep, all press secretaries are the same. So it's racism that'll be to blame when things head south for Karine Jean-Pierre. The first thing the talking heads on CNN and MSNBC will mention if she ever gets the boot. "The American public was just too racist to accept a black lesbian White House press secretary."

apparently since she is gay that makes her extra bad at her job. Then add being black and a woman and it’s even worse.

No, she's just objectively bad at her job. Same thing happened with Kamala. Chosen over far better candidates because of her intersectionality. The end result has been the same.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

i think it was a good thing actually, but bad for US empire.

The way I see it, I'm not as interested in a person's intentions as I am in the results of their actions. If Trump weakened the empire, regardless of how corrupt and self-serving he may be, he would still be a net positive.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

well thats making a case against free markets then. you know im skeptical of all markets too for that reason.

Markets can't not exist as long as people trade for anything. The only other option is eliminating people, or people becoming entirely self-sufficient. The Empire is going with option A.

 

[rickyb]

That depends on an individual's circumstances. If it takes you two hours and 5 transfers to get 5 miles across town, that's not efficient for you. If you need to pick up 100 lbs of groceries, taking public transit is a terrible idea.

but thats more a reflection of not having a good transit system than it is of cars being the answer.

an irrational car ad will have women, and cars going over mountains or racing or whatever.

a rational car ad might actually tell you CR reliability and rating for the car, fuel economy, and that we need more public transit bc cars arent efficient anyways.

a rational food ad might tell you how healthy or unhealthy a food is for you or how much it pollutes to produce it, etc. an irrational food ad will show a cartoon character like this:

ads undermine markets by getting people to make irrational decisions.

 

[rickyb]

The way I see it, I'm not as interested in a person's intentions as I am in the results of their actions. If Trump weakened the empire, regardless of how corrupt and self-serving he may be, he would still be a net positive.

i dont think trumps accidental achievement of weakening the empire means it was good to have him as president. but we can definitely credit trumps actions for inadvertently weakening it.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

How do you feel about the anti-woke movement?

It's an inevitability. People don't like radical movements, but the radicals don't stop, so it sparks a reactionary movement. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction applies to social issues as well. But, if the goal of "anti-woke" is to feel back cultural norms closer to what they were in the mid 80's to early 90's, I'd be for that.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

but thats more a reflection of not having a good transit system than it is of cars being the answer.

an irrational car ad will have women, and cars going over mountains or racing or whatever.

a rational car ad might actually tell you CR reliability and rating for the car, fuel economy, and that we need more public transit bc cars arent efficient anyways.

a rational food ad might tell you how healthy or unhealthy a food is for you or how much it pollutes to produce it, etc. an irrational food ad will show a cartoon character like this:

ads undermine markets by getting people to make irrational decisions.

No, It's a reflection of the limits of public transport. To be more usable to people who drive cars, public transit would basically have to be a taxi service, which would actually reduce efficiency over private vehicle ownership.

 

[rickyb]

No, It's a reflection of the limits of public transport. To be more usable to people who drive cars, public transit would basically have to be a taxi service, which would actually reduce efficiency over private vehicle ownership.

airplanes for example are more efficient than private jets. we dont own airplanes. the same should be true for cars.

theres 2 mountains nearby. ones a gondola which is way more efficient than people driving their cars up the hill.

a rational car ad might talk about pollution that goes with buying a car.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

airplanes for example are more efficient than private jets. we dont own airplanes. the same should be true for cars.

theres 2 mountains nearby. ones a gondola which is way more efficient than people driving their cars up the hill.

a rational car ad might talk about pollution that goes with buying a car.

We don't own airplanes in as high of numbers as cars, but there are way more private plane owners than you'd think. Flying also isn't public, It's privately funded. The effort it takes to maintain a plane properly, and the space to store it and take off and land, are the real limiting factors. If they built planes the way they do cars, and if every block had a landings strip and hangar, and everyone were a plane mechanic, everyone would own a plane.

 

[rickyb]

We don't own airplanes in as high of numbers as cars, but there are way more private plane owners than you'd think. Flying also isn't public, It's privately funded. The effort it takes to maintain a plane properly, and the space to store it and take off and land, are the real limiting factors. If they built planes the way they do cars, and if every block had a landings strip and hangar, and everyone were a plane mechanic, everyone would own a plane.

we dont really own planes at all. this is where cars ownership is headed, as more and more ppl become poor they will rent seats in a car trip.

i dont think uber is that efficient, you should be able to drive with someone whos going in same direction as you and split the costs.

btw cars and planes are dangerous. pretty sure public transit much safer. cars and guns are number 1 and 2 cause of death for young americans.

 

[Box Ox]

a rational food ad might tell you how healthy or unhealthy a food is for you or how much it pollutes to produce it

a rational car ad might talk about pollution that goes with buying a car.

Why would a company pay to produce and air an ad that s on its own product? That wouldn't be very rational thing for it to do.

advertisements undermine market principles by promoting irrational decisions

advertisements undermine market principles by promoting irrational decisions for example buy a mercedez SUV or hummer SUV or any SUV when really all you need is a sedan

Why would buying a luxury and/or large SUV rather than a sedan be an inherently irrational decision? If I'm able to get from point A to B in a Honda Civic am I being irrational if I buy a Mercedes SUV?

 

[rickyb]

Why would a company pay to produce and air an ad that s on its own product? That wouldn't be very rational thing for it to do.




Why would buying a luxury and/or large SUV rather than a sedan be an inherently irrational decision? If I'm able to get from point A to B in a Honda Civic am I being irrational if I buy a Mercedes SUV?

mercedes which has many poorly rated and certainly unreliable cars which are more expensive than many other car companies, has advertisements which dont promote rational decision making'

a rational reason for buying an SUV might be if you live in a back road with no snow plows. if you dont need the space and live in the city, you might not be making a rational decision when buying an SUV.

point is advertisements dont promote rational decision making. i wil now search mercedez suv ad and i will post the commercial here and you decide whether its promoting rational or irrational decision making.

 

[UnionStrong]

mercedes which has many poorly rated and certainly unreliable cars which are more expensive than many other car companies, has advertisements which dont promote rational decision making'

a rational reason for buying an SUV might be if you live in a back road with no snow plows. if you dont need the space and live in the city, you might not be making a rational decision when buying an SUV.

point is advertisements dont promote rational decision making. i wil now search mercedez suv ad and i will post the commercial here and you decide whether its promoting rational or irrational decision making.

A vehicle you will never own.

 

[rickyb]

A vehicle you will never own.

a rational decision would be buying it used since they depreciate like crazy

do the ads mention this?? LOL

you bought a honda sedan. rational decision making prevailed.

mercedes quite often is an example of a symbol with no substance, like the matrix.