The Ballot mess!

[Atomic_Smurf]

Bubble made a point that it is unsustainable. I only pointed to the facts that "last year" a letter was written to Obama. Obama rejected it. Then a new meeting took place at the White House that hashed out a deal which was confirmed. And your going back and forth with the 63 dollar a head tax. Well that equates to 800 million in the 3 largest unions. So is it unsustainable or 63 bucks a head? Do you even know how many people are in the 3 largest unions?

Doesn't matter how many people are in those unions. The tax is $63 dollars per person the first year then shrinks & disappears after 2 years. 2 hours at top driver rate would cover it. That tax is no threat to the long term survivability of our plans. I'm hoping that by now you've had enough time to sober up, replay your video & understand it this time. I must say listening to you struggle to explain your take on this is like listening to Richard Simmons trying to explain diesel mechanics.

 

[stink219]

I really could care less of this issue. I knew it was a non issue to begin with. Even over a year ago, when you felt compelled to justify this issue as static. If you think your gonna sit there and take credit for justifying a point that was invalid to begin with, I'm sorry that you think it matters. Simple fact is, your point was too late to begin with. Nice try anyway. But it was a nice touch that your cronies came to your aid to help you prove a mute point. Congratulations on your impedance.


~A liar knows that he is a liar, but one who speaks mere portions of truth in order to deceive is a craftsman of destruction.~

 

[Atomic_Smurf]

I really could care less of this issue. I knew it was a non issue to begin with. Even over a year ago, when you felt compelled to justify this issue as static. If you think your gonna sit there and take credit for justifying a point that was invalid to begin with, I'm sorry that you think it matters. Simple fact is, your point was too late to begin with. Nice try anyway. But it was a nice touch that your cronies came to your aid to help you prove a mute point. Congratulations on your impedane.
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You're not very gracious in defeat but I guess I'll take it. Next time you want to take someone to task on an "invalid' & "mute" point at least try to know what you are talking about. Fact is our health care is important to us & worth defending. Protecting it would be a much easier job if our union wasn't full of uninformed liberals clinging to the broken promises of a deceptive president & spinning the truth to attempt to help cover the blunders of our own union leaders. I'll leave you with this quote, might be worth pondering today as you sulk. ~A liar knows that he is a liar, but one who speaks mere portions of truth in order to deceive is a craftsman of destruction.~

 

[stink219]

Ahhhh, sure. Whatever makes you sleep at night.


~A liar knows that he is a liar, but one who speaks mere portions of truth in order to deceive is a craftsman of destruction.~

 

[Anonymous 12]

Ahhhh, sure. Whatever makes you sleep at night.


~A liar knows that he is a liar, but one who speaks mere portions of truth in order to deceive is a craftsman of destruction.~

I got some action last night.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

I got some action last night.

Bet your hand Is tired!....lol

 

[bleedinbrown58]

Bet your hand Is tired!....lol

Lmao...but he can probably see his reflection...in the silver!

 

[bleedinbrown58]

I got some action last night.

 

[Anonymous 12]

Bet your hand Is tired!....lol

I'm tired I had to dig a big hole in the backyard because my sump pump line is jammed up I split a bunch a damn firewood yesterday and then I hit last night it was not with my hand but they hurt like hell from chopping wood.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

I'm tired I had to dig a big hole in the backyard because my sump pump line is jammed up I split a bunch a damn firewood yesterday and then I hit last night it was not with my hand but they hurt like hell from chopping wood.

Just busting, your chops!

 

[Bubblehead]

I'm tired I had to dig a big hole in the backyard because my sump pump line is jammed up I split a bunch a damn firewood yesterday and then I hit last night it was not with my hand but they hurt like hell from chopping wood.

Is this some sort of parable?

 

[Anonymous 12]

Just busting, your chops!

I wish I wouldn't have did any of it. I have t split wood in months and I feel like a tub of smilet.

 

[Anonymous 12]

I miss football season.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

I wish I wouldn't have did any of it. I have t split wood in months and I feel like a tub of smilet.

Was she, atleast awake??...lmao

 

[Irishman Collins]

I would like to ask everyone to do something, regardless of your position on this contract. Since the word "unsustainable" and it's definition are quite clear and concise. I think we should all write our government officials and ask them for the exemptions that are necessary to keep Taft Hartley plans sustainable. I see this debate over our healthcare come down to two main opinions. The first opinion is that the word "unsustainable" has no hidden meaning and that we have been given misinformation from our leaders to pass this contract. The second opinion is that the word "unsustainable" is just a harsh word used to get the attention of our government and that our Union leaders have the situation well at hand and the legislation needed to provide Taft Hartley plans with exemptions is just a matter of time. I do think regardless of your opinion you think something has to be done so lets stand together on a letter writing campaign and ask elected leaders to protect our Taft Hartley plans that we All have fought to keep.

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[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

$63/yr tax per member is not excessive nor would it make our plan unsustainable.


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[Irishman Collins]

Again with all due respect I am only following the words of the Hoffa letter to the Democratic party.

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[Atomic_Smurf]

$63/yr tax per member is not excessive nor would it make our plan unsustainable.


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Agreed. The $63 dollar tax isn't an issue. It does not doom our plans, nor does an exemption from it save them. It's nearly inconsequential except for the purpose of giving some political cover to our leaders so they can continue to buffalo the less informed. I've yet to hear them take this stance by the way, except for Stinks overheard "upper brass" comment. If they start using this as cover, just ask questions & watch them squirm. & Irishman Collins, lets stop looking for our own exemption from the garbage our union supported & ask for an exemtion for every working-class American from this redistributive legislation. Demand full Repeal, there are no fixes. You of all people should understand that by now.

 

[Stonefish]

Agreed. The $63 dollar tax isn't an issue. It does not doom our plans, nor does an exemption from it save them. It's nearly inconsequential except for the purpose of giving some political cover to our leaders so they can continue to buffalo the less informed. I've yet to hear them take this stance by the way, except for Stinks overheard "upper brass" comment. If they start using this as cover, just ask questions & watch them squirm. & Irishman Collins, lets stop looking for our own exemption from the garbage our union supported & ask for an exemtion for every working-class American from this redistributive legislation. Demand full Repeal, there are no fixes. You of all people should understand that by now.

Your comments are unsustainable

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

I fully support Obamacare and would love to see it evolve in to a single-payer system.


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