The end of girl’s sports

oldngray

nowhere special
Leveling the playing

Pretty much, yes. That's why women went around with those football shoulder pads under their silly business jackets for so long.

Looks good to me

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zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
Only people who feel vast amounts of hatred see it as a motivation in everyone else. It's called projection. They can't fathom that other people might actually be motivated by other things, like logic, reason, or a sense of fair play.
 
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wilberforce15

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So what is the reason all these men are going around with man buns and earrings and acting effeminate?

Because masculinity has been so stigmatized, they wish to signal that they are not part of the traditional male ethic.

You should only wear a Top Knot if you are an actual samurai. Other than that, it should be a capital offense, as it was in Japan.
 

Wally

BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns
Where is all the lefty loud mouths and feminists defending these gals against these dudes? Who's side are they on?
 

wilberforce15

Well-Known Member
Where is all the lefty loud mouths and feminists defending these gals against these dudes? Who's side are they on?

Welcome to liberalism.

It's the Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminists (called TERFs) who believe in genders and want to defend women, against the majority of new liberalism which is less hung up on the binary, and hates the old feminism in the name of trans stuff.

Liberals can only be united when they have conservatives to fight.

Once they're in power, they only turn on themselves.
 

Wally

BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns
Welcome to liberalism.

It's the Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminists (called TERFs) who believe in genders and want to defend women, against the majority of new liberalism which is less hung up on the binary, and hates the old feminism in the name of trans stuff.

Liberals can only be united when they have conservatives to fight.

Once they're in power, they only turn on themselves.
So they are picking men over woman? Lol
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Because masculinity has been so stigmatized, they wish to signal that they are not part of the traditional male ethic.

You should only wear a Top Knot if you are an actual samurai. Other than that, it should be a capital offense, as it was in Japan.
But how can you tell who's a knothead without them?
 

bbsam

Moderator
Staff member
I’m curious. I know your son plays soccer, but what about your daughter? How would you feel about a trans boy playing against her team?
She does play. She plays against boys at times. Doesn’t much care for it. But a single player, boy, girl, trans doesn’t tend to make a difference in soccer. A single or even three exceptional players can easily be negated by a well coached and disciplined team.

So when I watch her team play, I’m generally not paying attention to single players on either team. Considering how many tournaments and games she’s played, it may be possible that she’s played a trans boy and we never knew it. Teams and coaches can be fairly unscrupulous at every level.
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
Gender is a linguistics term, linguistics is a system of symbols that people use to communicate ideas about the real world. When the ideas behind the symbols start moving further and further away from the real things the symbols are meant to communicate, they lose their meaning.

To an extent I agree that traditional gender-roles in a society can be too rigid and make it difficult for people, whose circumstances fall outside the norms, just to get by. This is where putting tradition ahead of people gets conservatives in trouble. We need to be compassionate towards the struggles of others, without losing all grip on reality.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
@vantexan

you don’t watch soccer, do you? If you did, you’d know nothing I said was untrue.
Actually have watched a bit lately on YouTube and always watch the World Cup, both men's and women's. Don't know how old your daughter is but a prepubescent boy with long hair might get away with it. But post puberty it's doubtful that an effeminate boy is out there playing soccer and a boy developing whiskers and standing a head taller with a flat chest probably isn't fooling anyone. Doesn't matter, if he's good enough to be on the team he's displaced a girl who wanted to play. You're focusing on if a boy makes a difference in winning but for that girl he displaced it makes all the difference.
 

Operational needs

Virescit Vulnere Virtus
She does play. She plays against boys at times. Doesn’t much care for it. But a single player, boy, girl, trans doesn’t tend to make a difference in soccer. A single or even three exceptional players can easily be negated by a well coached and disciplined team.

So when I watch her team play, I’m generally not paying attention to single players on either team. Considering how many tournaments and games she’s played, it may be possible that she’s played a trans boy and we never knew it. Teams and coaches can be fairly unscrupulous at every level.
I guess where the problem comes in, in this situation, is when college scouts are out.
 
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