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Democrats used to be the party of the little guy a long time ago, but it isn't so anymore. They are now the party of elites and the rich. Drive around the wealthiest old money neighborhoods during election time and you'll see nearly all the mansions have Democrat signs in their yards. They are no longer the party of the little guy, but are actually the party of billionaires and giant corporations. They've somehow still managed to convinced a large number of Democrats to keep believing they represent the little guy. Maybe 40 or 50 years ago it was true, but it sure isn't anymore.
 
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bacha29

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vantexan said:
For one Jim Oberstar, D-Minn, had fought hard to get that provision through. He really made Fred angry questioning him in a hearing. And then there was both UPS and the Teamsters pushing for it. I'm surprised that you are making excuses when this is a major thing you've pushed for all of these years. Which comes first for you, employees, or your political party? I thought political parties were supposed to serve their constituents, not the other way around.
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No matter how hard you try you're party cannot be absolved of the responsibility for twice killing the bill in House committee. The task of Democrats is NOT to protect Republican voters from the belligerent anti blue collar anti organized labor stance it has taken for generations . Oberstar wasn't fighting Fat Freddy. He was fighting against the Republicans and their generations old stance against organized labor.

Don't you remember ? Unions are SOCIALISM !!!

If the bill was the good deal you say it was then why didn't the Republicans pass it in behalf of their Republican blue collar constituents?

One thing the democrats can't do is to protect you consercuks from yourselves.
 
Fred's Myth

Fred's Myth

Nonhyphenated American
bacha29 said:
No matter how hard you try you're party cannot be absolved of the responsibility for twice killing the bill in House committee. The task of Democrats is NOT to protect Republican voters from the belligerent anti blue collar anti organized labor stance it has taken for generations . Oberstar wasn't fighting Fat Freddy. He was fighting against the Republicans and their generations old stance against organized labor.

Don't you remember ? Unions are SOCIALISM !!!

If the bill was the good deal you say it was then why didn't the Republicans pass it in behalf of their Republican blue collar constituents?

One thing the democrats can't do is to protect you consercuks from yourselves.
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So in your mind, all Express employees are Republicans, and deserve the fate of being denied union representation.

You should get your Aricept refilled.
 
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vantexan

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bacha29 said:
No matter how hard you try you're party cannot be absolved of the responsibility for twice killing the bill in House committee. The task of Democrats is NOT to protect Republican voters from the belligerent anti blue collar anti organized labor stance it has taken for generations . Oberstar wasn't fighting Fat Freddy. He was fighting against the Republicans and their generations old stance against organized labor.

Don't you remember ? Unions are SOCIALISM !!!

If the bill was the good deal you say it was then why didn't the Republicans pass it in behalf of their Republican blue collar constituents?

One thing the democrats can't do is to protect you consercuks from yourselves.
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You weren't here in 2009-2010. We thought we were finally going to unionize. Believe it or not MrFedEx was optimistic. No one ever thought the Republicans would support us getting a union. That was a foregone conclusion. Everything lined up with Democrat control in 2009. Then the rug got pulled out from under us. The Teamsters turned their backs on us. And Fred doubled down by giving us smile**y raises for years to come after already terminating the traditional pension in 2008. We had one Congressman really go to bat for us, Jim Oberstar. But money talks.
 
floridays

floridays

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bacha29 said:
Judging by the people they put in Congress it would appear that they don't want union representation.
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Judging by the people Who put in Congress?

Looking at the 2009 vote from hindsight it appears the democrats either lied or turned their backs on blue collar. Fedex Express specifically.
 
Working4the1%

Working4the1%

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fedx said:
Democrats used to be the party of the little guy a long time ago, but it isn't so anymore. They are now the party of elites and the rich. Drive around the wealthiest old money neighborhoods during election time and you'll see nearly all the mansions have Democrat signs in their yards. They are no longer the party of the little guy, but are actually the party of billionaires and giant corporations. They've somehow still managed to convinced a large number of Democrats to keep believing they represent the little guy. Maybe 40 or 50 years ago it was true, but it sure isn't anymore.
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Guess u forgot the Trillion dollar hand out to the rich Trumpy and Republicans cult gave...
 
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vantexan

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Working4the1% said:
Guess u forgot the Trillion dollar hand out to the rich Trumpy and Republicans cult gave...
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You guys are really something. How do you expect corporations to provide jobs, to expand their businesses, to meet shareholder expectations(your 401k), if government is draining them dry with taxation and costly regulations that often are just another way to scalp more money out of business? How many poor men have provided you a paycheck? Get over the rich making money. Be thankful there are opportunities for you and your children. Opportunities that will likely dry up if businesses are once again hammered by the government. And for Pete's sake stop having unrealistic expectations of what companies can do for you. No one wants to be a wage slave but companies can't print money. You can't all make $80k a year with gold plated benefits. Be realistic. Want to make $80k at FedEx? Go into management. If you don't want that, I certainly didn't, then you'll have to settle for less or leave. I'd be more concerned right now as to whether FedEx is looking to make FTer's $40k or less employees. If they are I would, if I were still there, go into trucking or something else that pays better. FedEx used to be a job where you didn't have to have a degree of a trade skill to make a living. Doesn't look to be the case anymore.
 
Working4the1%

Working4the1%

Well-Known Member
vantexan said:
You guys are really something. How do you expect corporations to provide jobs, to expand their businesses, to meet shareholder expectations(your 401k), if government is draining them dry with taxation and costly regulations that often are just another way to scalp more money out of business? How many poor men have provided you a paycheck? Get over the rich making money. Be thankful there are opportunities for you and your children. Opportunities that will likely dry up if businesses are once again hammered by the government. And for Pete's sake stop having unrealistic expectations of what companies can do for you. No one wants to be a wage slave but companies can't print money. You can't all make $80k a year with gold plated benefits. Be realistic. Want to make $80k at FedEx? Go into management. If you don't want that, I certainly didn't, then you'll have to settle for less or leave. I'd be more concerned right now as to whether FedEx is looking to make FTer's $40k employees. If they are I would, if I were still there, go into trucking or something else that pays better. FedEx used to be a job where you didn't have to have a degree of a trade skill to make a living. Doesn't look to be the case anymore.
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Headed for 90k this year. Half a million in 401k. QUITER !!!
 
59 Dano

59 Dano

I just want to make friends!
vantexan said:
You weren't here in 2009-2010. We thought we were finally going to unionize. Believe it or not MrFedEx was optimistic.
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That should give you a good idea of how silly those expectations were, though it's fair to note that he hadn't been here that long and made such a fool of himself.

No one ever thought the Republicans would support us getting a union. That was a foregone conclusion. Everything lined up with Democrat control in 2009. Then the rug got pulled out from under us. The Teamsters turned their backs on us. And Fred doubled down by giving us smile**y raises for years to come after already terminating the traditional pension in 2008. We had one Congressman really go to bat for us, Jim Oberstar. But money talks.
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That wasn't the issue. The issue was altering the law specifically and explicitly to exempt one single company for the benefit of a special interest group (the IBT).
 
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vantexan

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59 Dano said:
That should give you a good idea of how silly those expectations were, though it's fair to note that he hadn't been here that long and made such a fool of himself.


That wasn't the issue. The issue was altering the law specifically and explicitly to exempt one single company for the benefit of a special interest group (the IBT).
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Actually some other companies were included but we were the main focus. But what I posted is true, Republicans don't support unions and we had no expectation they would.
 

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