Dumbo
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I'd like to know this also. Does the new pay rate and retro check start immediately?
The ( OFFICIAL ) angry Contract results thread!
I'd like to know this also. Does the new pay rate and retro check start immediately?
Wontmake9.5
My job is fun
No. All the tenative agreements have to pass before the master does. Or they just force everything to pass and bam done. We still work under the old for the time being. More will be clear in the coming week or so I would imagine.
PT Car Washer
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The voting results sure don't reflect your assumption.
Wontmake9.5
My job is fun
Is there a break down on how many ft vs pt voted?
I'd like to see all the stats too.
Brownpants80
Well-Known Member
Ok good. So theres still a chance to vote down supplements and at least try to make it better for each region!
PT Car Washer
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Not that I know of. Some just like to assume that no PT vote or are involved in the Union. I can guarantee you that assumption is not true.
I told every new person I came across. The problem is most new part timers see this as a temp job, they either have aspirations of a better job, or want to go into management. People hired under the 2013-2018 contract shouldn't be allowed to vote. Only let people who have invested their lives into this company that privilege.
Was my center the only center hiring high amounts of pt people this past year? It's crazy now at my center. All these blue vests everywhere, and getting through the guard shack is a bitch now, with all these new faces waiting in line. Man I can swear the Union and UPS did this on purpose. Hire a bunch of new people, who don't care to vote, and dilute the "NO" votes. For sure it wasn't like a grand plan, they're not that smart, but they did hedge their bets.
Everything just seems like a big
ing show. That "strike authorization" was a big can of nothing.
Was my center the only center hiring high amounts of pt people this past year? It's crazy now at my center. All these blue vests everywhere, and getting through the guard shack is a bitch now, with all these new faces waiting in line. Man I can swear the Union and UPS did this on purpose. Hire a bunch of new people, who don't care to vote, and dilute the "NO" votes. For sure it wasn't like a grand plan, they're not that smart, but they did hedge their bets.
Everything just seems like a big
ing show. That "strike authorization" was a big can of nothing.
PeakMode
Arrive Peak Leave
Most of the ones who didn't vote probably didn't know they could vote. Instead of pushing Vote Yes flyers, Teamsters should been making sure each member or potential member new their union status and how to correct it. Alot of PTs thought they had their union dues taken out but didn't find out to this month that they were out taken out. That isn't a UPS problem, that is Teamsters' problem.
AwashBwashCwash
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Oh of course it's done on purpose. That's what happens when you make part-timers expendable. They become disengaged and it becomes easier to control labor. It's classic divide-and-conquer strategy.
I just think it's funny how everyone treats the part-timers like
and tells them to go get 2 more jobs if they want to eat yet when the final hour was here everyone gets mad that they didn't swoop in to save the day. Why should they care? Their 2nd and 3rd jobs are probably better anyways.The drivers looked up and shouted "Save us!" and the part-timers looked down and whispered "No."
SafetyFirst
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50% on an election like this is an unreasonable threshold. The country barely manages over 50% turnout in presidential election. It's just not a reality and they knew it the whole time.
Not everyone is as vested in this company as a ft driver with 10+ years of service. The turnover rate of part timers at my center makes it pretty obvious a lot of those guys are only here till they find something better. That is fine, this place isn't for everyone but it's just not realistic that someone here a year or two who is already looking for another job and no aspiration of staying here or ever becoming a driver takes union politics and contract negotiations as serious as a guy making a career out of UPS.
Not everyone is as vested in this company as a ft driver with 10+ years of service. The turnover rate of part timers at my center makes it pretty obvious a lot of those guys are only here till they find something better. That is fine, this place isn't for everyone but it's just not realistic that someone here a year or two who is already looking for another job and no aspiration of staying here or ever becoming a driver takes union politics and contract negotiations as serious as a guy making a career out of UPS.
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
Heavy Package
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When do I get my retro check since the contract was passed? Asking for a friend.
cachmeifucan
Well-Known Member
210,000 eligible supposedly teamsters
-15,000 local 705
-10,00 local 710
-10,000 employees who just got hired not eligible to vote
-10,000 missing ballots and people who quit and got fired still on payroll I overheard two full time supervisor talking about finally being able to clear employees that quit weeks ago and or got fired. Fraud they said the email they got said to keep thru on payroll for united way donation but it was really for vote. To manipulate and inflate the number of eligible voter's.
-15,000 local 705
-10,00 local 710
-10,000 employees who just got hired not eligible to vote
-10,000 missing ballots and people who quit and got fired still on payroll I overheard two full time supervisor talking about finally being able to clear employees that quit weeks ago and or got fired. Fraud they said the email they got said to keep thru on payroll for united way donation but it was really for vote. To manipulate and inflate the number of eligible voter's.
AwashBwashCwash
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Brown Down
Well-Known Member
I agree that the blame falls squarely on those that didn't vote at all shoulders. As much as I hate to admit it the leadership is following the constitution fully. It's their choice in renegotiating or ramming it through. Unfortunately we all see which way they are going.
Brown Down
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No it doesn't go into effect yet. We will still work under the old contract t until the supplements are passed.
I appreciate you concern but I slept in till almost 10!
And tomorrow too!
