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The Policies That Failed
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Trolling, sir, is illegal on these message boards; and besides I NEVER troll.
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OK, Google "how did Obama fail." Plenty of info there.
I think it's a legitimate question. You have to admit, Trump supporters don't really seem to grasp the concept of irony; I mean come on, a multi-billionaire being touted as the champion of working sods? - how
ing absurd can you get? I saw that bit on Sixty Minutes where he said that he has to eat at Mcdonalds due to his hectic schedule, and that he wanted to lose 20 pounds. I can just imagine the mongoloids watching that crock-of- thinking to themselves, "that billionaire is just like us; he has to eat food too." - absolutely ABSURD!I don't recall ever voting for Obama, so you can dispense with your limited, binary logic.
Is "don't recall" the same as not voting for him? You asked how have policies in the country failed so you must be referring to the current administration as Trump hasn't taken over yet. Trying to assist you. After all you can't seem to grasp that Trump is a "populist" president, a different animal than your average Republican president. And don't forget MFE that it was your brilliant Democrat union workers who put him over the top. You seem to forget that when you start ragging on us po' uneducated white Republicans who vote for people like Trump. So there Meat, you drew me out, on Christmas Day no less. If there's one saving grace in Trump winning it's in torturing people like MFE for at least 4 more years. We had to put up with 8 years of lying ass Obama and failed policy after failed policy, so I know firsthand how much pain MFE will feel. And if Trump does do well? He'll be tortured that much more. You live by the sword, you die by it too. Merry Christmas!
Populist my derrière; at the risk of being redundant...
You have to admit, Trump supporters don't really seem to grasp the concept of irony; I mean come on, a multi-billionaire being touted as the champion of working sods? - how
Do you know what it means to be a populist politician? You're hung up on the billionaire thing. A populist plays to the masses, pledging to work in their best interest, whether he means it or not. Sure, all politicians pay lip service to the common man, but it's obvious who most of them represent. Trump said things that resonated with the working class, the middle class. Things most politicians wouldn't dare. And they got beat for it. Let's see if he'll back it up. Trump could actually cure cancer while reversing global warming and MFE would still hate him. When your ideology is based on hatred, you'll ultimately lose. People like MFE constantly say working class poor whites are hateful bigots, but who truly is hating who here? And who lost? Get over it and move on.
A pithy reply. Are you demonstrating your vastly superior logic? I'm taken aback with your obvious genius.
MrFedEx
Engorged Member
Yes, Putin has also told us to move on. You could also substitute "demagogue" in the case of Trump for "populist". My ideology is based on Trump's incompetence, propensity to lie (constantly), and his almost total lack of diplomatic skills or tact. Face it, he said exactly what he needed to in order to energize the white under-educated masses who have been left behind in a global, increasingly tech economy. He lied to these people, because those jobs aren't coming back.
Trump's personal character is most troubling. He has a 5-second attention span, a terrible temper, and his need for revenge consumes him. Just ask those who have crossed him over the years. Trump never forgets a slight.
One look at his Cabinet appointments should tell most intelligent people that workers and the middle class are absolutely not his priority. He's taking care of the aristocracy, plain and simple.
Stay, van, and help make America Great Again. Trump needs folks like you to convince the world he isn't just a phony pretending to be "presidential". It's just like an episode from reality TV, which isn't reality at all, but usually scripted to create fake arguments, controversies, and drama, when none exists.
To his base, that stuff is all real, and so is Trump. One quick look behind the curtain finds an orange-haired buffoon pulling all of the levers that create "The Great and Powerful Trump".
He's a phony, he isn't up to the task, and he's morally bankrupt. A perfect choice to lead our country.
MrFedEx
Engorged Member
Trump is nothing but a demagogue, plain and simple.
You just described Obama in that last paragraph. Like Trump or not, he's the President. Let's see what happens.
MrFedEx
Engorged Member
Don't twist my words to fit your narrative. Maybe you can wave at him when he visits Mexico. I'm sure he'll be very welcome.
Cactus
Just telling it like it is
How were your words twisted? You exactly described Obama.
Help me out with this: why is there such adversion to Obama? Personally, despite his campaign promises, I saw him for exactly what he turned out to be - a middle-of-the-road centrist - and declined to vote for him in either election. When I hear those on the right refer to him as a "radical leftist" it makes me smirk; how many radical leftists receive millions of dollars in campaign donations from the finance industry? His presidency was average, but it should be noted that the country was basically on the brink of implosion when he took over, and there have been some positives during his tenure (e.g the stock market more than doubling). To listen to you and those of your ilk you would think that Obama was handed the US during the 50's glory years and created the current state of the country and economy. So the guy was average, so what? Quite frankly, listening to how you describe your life, I'm very surprised you have an adversion to mediocrity. What gives? Why the hate?
Ask yourself why Obama won't allow any of his college papers to be published. Find out the kind of radicals he hung with before becoming president. The only reason he got stalled from implementing his far left ideology was the Republicans took over the House in 2011. Before that happened he and the Dems rammed through Obamacare, which he flat out lied to us about it's nature. If he had been able to get cap-and-trade passed our economy would have gotten completely trashed. I know you want to allude to his race, it's what you folks always go to. He's half white, raised in a very white environment. My beef with him racially is he made racial incidents much worse with his intervening. Is there racism in America? Sure. But the assumption that it's almost always the whites' fault, and especially the white cops' fault isn't supported by the facts put out by the FBI and others. As long as we have leaders like him perpetuating myths we'll never heal the racial divide. I'm sure you'll say I'm a racist, as you have before, but you don't know me. My mother's family is more Cherokee than white. I have Hispanic and black relatives on my Dad's Scots-Irish side. I have no problem at all with intermarriage and think race relations will be better when we're all mixed up. But I do get frustrated when a black cashier acts like she's going to spit in my face because all she sees is a large white man, and thus all the repression of 400 years. And finally you think things improved greatly under Obama. I see more than twice the national debt without an improved economy. The kind of economy that provides jobs to the Middle class. MFE says those jobs won't come back. I saw on 60 Minutes a county in Mississippi that has created thousands of new jobs with high tech highly automated factories. I see a president on his way out trying to stop future oil exploration and drilling. I see a president that all through his tenure has been unfriendly to Israel, topped off by the recent vote in the UN. It's not about hatred, it's about policy. And don't let the stock market fool you. That benefits the 1%, and the rest of us have suppressed pay and limited opportunity because of it.
Yeah, he's far left alright; he assured the insurance companies that there would be no public option whatsoever long before the issue was "debated" on the floor of congress - reported by the ultra-left leaning Newsweek (ha ha).
First of all, you are not an economist (or did the "school of hard knocks" give you an honarary degree?) and you have no idea what the effect of cap-and-trade would have had on the economy. Second of all, why was Obama's cap-and-trade proposals billed as a market intrusion, and the Carrier deal an achievement? - strange, the logic strains credulity for sure.
Are you out of your
ing mind? "We're going to make American great again." - how far gone do you have to be to believe that? Do you have any idea of how awful your life is going to be? I understand that you probably need to paint the rosey picture that you do regarding your prospects to get through the day, but do you realize how awful it will be in reality? Long story short, I'm surprised you have an issue with those that "perpetuate myths." Do a bit of research. Specifically, verify how many tens of millions that were sent to Israel under Obama, and then see if you can repost your bull
with a straight face.Obama sent a team over to Israel at taxpayer expense to help the opposition defeat Netanyahu(they failed). The other day his UN ambassador abstained on a vote that all previous administrations would've vetoed. His admin has been extremely unfriendly to Israel, and I'm not talking about money already earmarked from previous agreements.Yeah, he's far left alright; he assured the insurance companies that there would be no public option whatsoever long before the issue was "debated" on the floor of congress - reported by the ultra-left leaning Newsweek (ha ha).
First of all, you are not an economist (or did the "school of hard knocks" give you an honarary degree?) and you have no idea what the effect of cap-and-trade would have had on the economy. Second of all, why was Obama's cap-and-trade proposals billed as a market intrusion, and the Carrier deal an achievement? - strange, the logic strains credulity for sure.
Are you out of your
Do a bit of research. Specifically, verify how many tens of millions that were sent to Israel under Obama, and then see if you can repost your bull
You seem locked into titles. No, I'm not an economist but show me one who thinks cap-and-trade is a good idea and I'll show you an income redistributing Socialist. You work for Express, right? Do you have any idea what the crippling effect would've been on FedEx under such a scheme? Think they'd ever be able to give raises with all the carbon credits they'd have to buy? For a guy who didn't vote for Obama you sure defend his policies.
