The Runner Gunner Lunch Skippers are HATING the new DOT lunch rule
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BrownArmy
Well-Known Member
It's not just the drivers in your loop, it's the cover/casual/swing drivers that can be in any loop, and it's the PT employee trying to go FT.
There are 100 drivers in my center, if half skip their lunch most of the time, that equals several real routes that don't need to be put on the road.
U
uber
Guest
Me too. We're lower than whale ***!
jaker
trolling
True , but we will never know unless some paperwork falls from management hands
I take a lot of days off and the covers kill my route , they ask me why I am coming in late I tell them I can do so many stops comfortably after that I am not going to keep pushing myself
130 eight hour day ,140 ten hour day
oldngray
nowhere special
When I was on vacation I always told whoever ran my route do the job correctly, take care of customers, and take your lunch and breaks. Cover drivers don't realize or care that when they skip lunches, cut extra corners and do things like make pickups too early they screw over the regular driver who comes back from vacation and sees his stop count jacked up, driver follow ups a couple of week later, complaints from customers that you get messages about even though you weren't here, and a whole week's worth of garbage scattered throughout the truck. Cover drivers can get away with screwing over customers they seldom see but the regular driver has to provide service to those customers on a daily basis.
Indecisi0n
Well-Known Member
I am a split driver and will agree with but on the flip side there are runners who screw split drivers.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
With all due respect it is none of your concern how "your" route is run while you are on vacation. Dave.
oldngray
nowhere special
Sorry, but when I had to clean up the messes left behind by someone else who ran my route for a few days then it is my concern.
Wally
BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns
Yep, Doing this makes the numbers tank. Not for me and others that take full break, but the "rabbits". Now, everyone is pretty much the same making it harder to target OJS.
oldngray
nowhere special
It is funny that the whole center's numbers will tank now that the rabbits are forced to take their breaks and management will have to answer to their bosses about the numbers being worse. And of course since it rolls downhill the rabbits will get harassed over their numbers looking worse. They will get nothing from UPS for their previous hard work. It is the "what have you done for me lately" mentality.
Anonymous 10
Guest
Spoken like a true me first runner.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
When I was a cover driver there were a couple of older drivers who used to give me the same speech. At that point I was trying to get a FT job so that I could take care of my family. These guys were "milkers". I can recall that I would try to run their areas they way they wanted them run but more often than not I would find myself sitting there twiddling my thumbs. I finally decided to run their areas the way that I wanted to. The customers were still taken care of, pickups were made on time with few if any DFU's and yet I was in at least an hour or two before they would be.
All I ask of my cover drivers is that they do the best that they can. I don't care how they run the route just as long as they get it done and don't piss anyone off while doing it.
Indecisi0n
Well-Known Member
Good thing about being consistent is my number have always sucked and I could careless but now the runners look bad and management is all over them. They complain to me and all I do is laugh and walk away. I have explained to them this was coming and all their hardwork would jus be tossed out. Ahhh feels really good being right sometimes.
oldngray
nowhere special
My numbers were always OK, near scratch plus or minus a couple of tenths. If anyone else ran my route and did job correctly they would always look worse on paper than me. And my route had some issues about pickup times which were not my fault but dictated by management so I had to go back to areas 2 or 3 times to make a pickup. Making it an hour early because you don't want to go back is not doing job correctly. As well as send agains from places that should have been delivered or all the bad DR's I had to hear about.
brownmonster
Man of Great Wisdom
A guy that used to run 3 hours under will now be 2 1/2 hours under assuming he didn't take any of his lunch previously. Hardly a reason for mgmnt concern.
OPTION3
Well-Known Member
I loved the instance when management came in and said" follow ups are out of control...we are going to track habitual drivers and there will be DISCIPLINE!" They had a list of "habituals" on the board.....The top 20 EVERYDAY were RUNNERS..........SWEPT under the rug QUICKLY.....no more list.....no more threats....obviously no more follow up problems....LMAO!
soberups
Pees in the brown Koolaid
1. If you were stupid enough to enter a one-hour lunch in the DIAD that you never actually took, you dont deserve back pay and the only way you could even try to get it would be to admit that you falsified your timecard, which is grounds for automatic termination. Good luck with that one.
2. We are "not allowed" to enter zero lunch in the DIAD here. If for whatever reason I dont wind up actually taking a lunch...I enter zero lunch anyway because to do anything else constitutes dishonesty and working off of the clock. They dont have to like it. They are free to talk to me about it, they are free to bitch me out about it, and they are free to issue me a warning letter for it if thats what they need to do. But I'm NOT going to falsify my timecard and work off of the clock. Period.
Just hit 25 years, so yes I'm still a rookie....
OK, it hasn't changed:
The 11 hour rule means you can't drive more than 11 hours. Drive means your time behind the wheel with the engine running. It does not include the time you are delivering or picking up while the vehicle is parked. It does not include lunch or breaks. It does not include any time on UPS property. 99.99% of package car drivers will never hit 11 hours driving before they hit their 14 hours max.
Hell I've never hit 11 hours driving in Feeders, and I work 14 often enough. You're out of the truck more than me, but I'm on UPS property a lot. To hit 11, you really have to have a lot of windshield time!
