The sales pitch is on.

[Turdferguson]

Lmfao!!!!

Stay away from my gifs you son of a b*!!!!

 

[no_map_needed]

Will these hybrids draw the same pension as a current full time driver? Will they make driver pay when they work inside or just when they drive?

Those details aren't in the released language so far. But based on what we have they want to pay less to drive but pay double for loading to save money? If it's split pay then it's basically a combo job.

 

[Frankie's Friend]

I always wondered how to crawl out of the woodwork.

It's all about methods.

 

[Wontmake9.5]

Yeah, so would “Delivery Engineer”. But oh well.

 

[upsbeernut]

It’s all BS. They are cutting routes like mad men, but if we vote this in they will add more? It doesn’t make any sense at all.

Vote noooooooooo

 

[Coldworld]

We will see how strict that 25% limit is. I do like that part. It limits the use of 224 drivers in place of rpcd.

I think it’s two high of a number... ups already said they aren’t even sure if they are going to continue sat driving ... so now these hybrids are going to drive 5 days a week....ups wanted the sat help.. think they need to keep their driving work centered toward those two days unless there’s an emergency or something on a weekday...I totally see ups exploiting this language guys...

 

[Box Ox]

Can anybody still here tell me why we need lesser paid 22.4 drivers? @Tony Q stomped off and is giving me the silent treatment over my decertification question. Are UPS profits in danger if full rate drivers are not curtailed?!

 

[Turdferguson]

Can anybody still here tell me why we need lesser paid 22.4 drivers? @Tony Q stomped off and is giving me the silent treatment over my decertification question. Are UPS profits in danger if full rate drivers are not curtailed?!

Greed. By both the union and company
Union gets more pension money and the company gets cheaper labor

 

[Coldworld]

Only thing I like out of all that crap is no more outside hires.

Still SOOOOOOO many loop holes in that weak language.

542... even if this passes in some form there will still be areas that won’t be able to get people from inside our ranks to do these jobs... they will have to hire from the outside...there are just too many variables about these jobs... but I definitely don’t like that there probably isn’t any language to state that they can’t use them for 5 days of straight driving.... that’s not ok.. if we agree to this hybrid it’s so their main job is inside to help with the high pt turnover and if available then maybe get a day or maybe 2 of driving... if there’s no language in there pertaining to that then I’m voting NO....

 

[The Driver]

And a few years later you made the same rate as the rest of the drivers.

These guys and gals will be $6 behind us.

And you can bet that in future contracts that $6 gap will widen.

Bottom line? NO! They'll never get a yes vote from me if the people doing the same job will never make what top scale full-timers make. PERIOD!

 

[BakerMayfield2018]

Greed. By both the union and company
Union gets more pension money and the company gets cheaper labor

That’s it in a nutshell brother ......

 

[Box Ox]

542... even if this passes in some form there will still be areas that won’t be able to get people from inside our ranks to do these jobs... they will have to hire from the outside...

Lower 22.4 pay and fewer protections certainly wouldn’t help recruitment efforts.

 

[BakerMayfield2018]

Greed. By both the union and company
Union gets more pension money and the company gets cheaper labor

This needs to be a sticky. Make it your tag line. It speaks volumes. It is exactly what is going on man.

 

[Turdferguson]

This needs to be a sticky. Make it your tag line. It speaks volumes. It is exactly what is going on man.

I prefer "screw you guys I am going home"

 

[Philo Bedo]

542... even if this passes in some form there will still be areas that won’t be able to get people from inside our ranks to do these jobs... they will have to hire from the outside...there are just too many variables about these jobs... but I definitely don’t like that there probably isn’t any language to state that they can’t use them for 5 days of straight driving.... that’s not ok.. if we agree to this hybrid it’s so their main job is inside to help with the high pt turnover and if available then maybe get a day or maybe 2 of driving... if there’s no language in there pertaining to that then I’m voting NO....

So what happens if all inside part timers in a building turn it down and they hire several of the street, will these off the street hires bump the part timers off their shift?

 

[Wontmake9.5]

This needs to be a sticky. Make it your tag line. It speaks volumes. It is exactly what is going on man.

 

[Tony Q]

@Tony Q thinks 22.4s are the best the Union can do. And I believe him as he says he’s an expert negotiator!

I said I could do better than you being severely hung over. I never said I was an expert, just an old S O B who’s lived a full life and then some.

 

[Ghost in the Darkness]

In less than 4hrs this thread has over 8 pages.

 

[BakerMayfield2018]

So what happens if all inside part timers in a building turn it down and they hire several of the street, will these off the street hires bump the part timers off their shift?

Do us all a favor and find another job.

 

[Ghost in the Darkness]

So the union is going to tell the company they can't cut routes, now that is funny.