THE TRUMP 2024 THREAD

[oldngray]

Many presidents have talked about changing it and making it better and very little has happened. Many years ago, George W Bush talked about opening accounts for each person so they can keep their own money in a personal account. I liked the idea. But it never happened, of course.
I have absolutely no problem with President Trump trying to modernize and limit the waste fraud and abuse in Social Security.

Personal control of your money would be better but that will never happen. Too many people can't be trusted to manage their own money. That is the governments position anyway and no chance of them giving up control.

 

[Next Day Err]

It’s understandable that this is a popular topic on Reddit. But why speculate/hyperventilate over it here when cutting, privatizing or eliminating Social Security would be political suicide?

Would it be? This is conventional wisdom but I’m not sure.

 

[Next Day Err]

If it’s privatized I personally want a full refund in exchange for opting out.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Personal control of your money would be better but that will never happen. Too many people can't be trusted to manage their own money. That is the governments position anyway and no chance of them giving up control.

Yep, if I had access to all the money, Social Security took for me weekly. I would be a millionaire many times over right now, but it is what it is.

I don’t, however, think it’s unreasonable for the citizens to demand accountability from Social Security department. As well as modernizing and stream and lining what is currently a convoluted and confusing system.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Would it be? This is conventional wisdom but I’m not sure.

If you asked the younger generation, they would probably tell you get rid of it, or change it, especially if they looked deep into it. The older you get the less likely you are to want any or uncertainty in this department.

 

[Wally]

Will Ukraine likely be better off if the war ends soon or doesn't end soon?

They need to go full out guerilla on Russia. Putin won't live forever, Russians will leave when the body count reaches a certain amount.

 

[Thebrownblob]

If it’s privatized I personally want a full refund in exchange for opting out.

I’m down with that, but the money is probably not there. Spent long ago or wasted.

 

[Thebrownblob]

They need to go full out guerilla on Russia. Putin won't live forever, Russians will leave when the body count reaches a certain amount.

Be careful what you wish for Putin is certainly an unsavory character. But I do not believe he’s stupid. Some of the people lined up behind him are much worse and have questionable intelligence and lack restraint.

It seems the United States never learns its lessons when it replaces or facilitates replacing some leader they feel is horrible, and the problem gets much worse in this vacuum that’s left.

 

[Next Day Err]

I’m down with that, but the money is probably not there. Spent long ago or wasted.

The government can sell bonds to pay for me to get my refund. If we’re dropping the illusion that we’re all in this together with social security then I want everything I’ve ever paid into the system back with interest

Lol

 

[Wally]

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This is the problem. They do not view it as being wasteful. Any cut, no matter what it is, is mean, wanting to kill old people and children.

 

[Thebrownblob]

The government can sell bonds to pay for me to get my refund. If we’re dropping the illusion that we’re all in this together with social security then I want everything I’ve ever paid into the system back with interest

Lol

Like I said, I feel what you’re saying but brother you and I both know we’re not in this “together”. Not really. There’s no way we get all of the money back we paid into the bottomless pit.

 

[Thebrownblob]

It doesn’t really matter @rod is going to live long enough to take everyone Social Security and pension. And at this point, I’m fine with it.

 

[Box Ox]

It’s understandable that this is a popular topic on Reddit. But why speculate/hyperventilate over it here when cutting, privatizing or eliminating Social Security would be political suicide?

Would it be? This is conventional wisdom but I’m not sure.

Ok, maybe not.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1897638214174687633

 

[Next Day Err]

It doesn’t really matter @rod is going to live long enough to take everyone Social Security and pension. And at this point, I’m fine with it.

I didn’t know he was still kicking

 

[oldngray]

I’m down with that, but the money is probably not there. Spent long ago or wasted.

The government "borrowed" the money from the Social Security trust fund and doesn't have the money to pay it back.

 

[Thebrownblob]

The government "borrowed" the money from the Social Security trust fund and doesn't have the money to pay it back.

Ooops

 

[Wally]

Like I said, I feel what you’re saying but brother you and I both know we’re not in this “together”. Not really. There’s no way we get all of the money back we paid into the bottomless pit.

You talking about just the funds you personally contributed, or including the amount any employer made?

 

[Thebrownblob]

You talking about just the funds you personally contributed, or including the amount any employer made?

Just the funds I have included. But you’re right it would be even more with that.

 

[Gotta Go]

Well Z can now get the troops he demanded...

Trump Plans to Revoke Legal Status of 240,000 Ukrainians: report

The Ukrainians are in the U.S. because they fled Russia's invasion and the reported move could lead to fast-track deportations.

www.newsweek.com

 

[Gotta Go]

Trump to Zelensky...
I'm sending 240,000 troops to Ukraine...
Maybe Err...
Can get a refund if his wife is sent back...