Trump Tariffs has Countries ready to retaliate?

[DriveInDriѵeOut]

For adults. 18, 21 or 25. Make one of them the adult age for guns, drugs, gambling and sex

So you're against freedom and pro regulation.
Hypocritical according to you.

 

[vantexan]

Atleast you’re man enough to answer. I disagree though, the government has no role in banning alcohol and tobacco for adults

1. If it was legalized in the states there wouldn’t be a need for it to be smuggled in across the border

2. A large percentage of fentanyl deaths are from people unknowingly taking it, as the criminal producers of it have no safety regulations. And the ones who do know they’re taking it can’t be sure how accurate the dosing is because of the same reasons.

3. instead of spending a trillion of our tax money trying to stop it, which we can’t do, we can’t even keep drugs out of prisons let alone the streets, we could tax it and use that money for treatment centers and education. So not only would you be receiving an enormous amount of extra money through taxes, you are also cutting off so far a trillion dollars of tax from our spending

Man I've seen videos of cops passing out and needing Narcan to revive them just from inhaling air after opening a trunk with a fentanyl shipment in it. It's too unstable for anyone to administer it other than licensed, trained medical workers. Look into anywhere in the world where drugs were legalized. They've all had so many problems that they eventually outlawed them again.

 

[Doublestandards]

So you're against freedom and pro regulation.
Hypocritical according to you.

I’m for freedom for adults. That doesn’t include pediphilia, because it involves a child. You’re really starting to creep me out.

 

[DriveInDriѵeOut]

Drug addicts want drugs to be legal.

They don't give a damn who it hurts.

All they care about is themselves.

 

[Doublestandards]

Man I've seen videos of cops passing out and needing Narcan to revive them just from inhaling air after opening a trunk with a fentanyl shipment in it.

Those were cops having a panic attack from placebo. Fentanyl doesn’t work like that

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We have a lot of scientific evidence and a good knowledge of chemical laws and the way that these drugs work that says this is impossible," said Ryan Marino, medical director for toxicology and addiction at University Hospitals in Cleveland.

"You can't just touch fentanyl and overdose," he said. "It doesn't just get into the air and make people overdose."

Viral video of San Diego deputy's fentanyl exposure raises questions

Some experts expressed doubts about the scenario. "You can't just touch fentanyl and overdose," physician Ryan Marino said.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[vantexan]

But alcohol and cigarette addicts don’t deserve a society that values their life?

You must not have any alcoholics in your family if you can’t see how debilitating that can be. Or you’re just a hypocrite. Or you just don’t really care and are incapable of independent thoughts anymore?

Heard it explained this way. You can have an alcoholic beverage without getting intoxicated. The whole point of doing illegal drugs is to get intoxicated.

You don't want government dictating anything concerning your personal choices but government has a vested interest in discouraging intoxication. If you don't want the government telling you can't have this or that then to be consistent you'll not want government stopping you on your drive home while intoxicated and charging you with a crime. It's your right to do what you please and everyone around you needs to worry about their own personal safety and not worry about what you're doing that may affect them. Do you see any problems with that scenario? You can't say of course you must make the right choices and not drive under the influence but intoxication removes inhibitions and affects judgement. So if we're going to legalize drugs then let's make sure that there are serious consequences for illegal behavior while intoxicated from your drug of choice.

 

[Doublestandards]

Drug addicts want drugs to be legal.

They don't give a damn who it hurts.

All they care about is themselves.

Drug addicts are getting drugs whether it’s legal or not. I don’t want to keep wasting tremendous amounts of our tax money while infringing on our 2nd amendment while also helping the cartels

 

[Doublestandards]

Heard it explained this way. You can have an alcoholic beverage without getting intoxicated. The whole point of doing illegal drugs is to get intoxicated.

people drink to get a buzz. Stop fooling yourself. Some just take it farther than others

 

[vantexan]

Those were cops having a panic attack from placebo. Fentanyl doesn’t work like that

“
We have a lot of scientific evidence and a good knowledge of chemical laws and the way that these drugs work that says this is impossible," said Ryan Marino, medical director for toxicology and addiction at University Hospitals in Cleveland.

"You can't just touch fentanyl and overdose," he said. "It doesn't just get into the air and make people overdose."

Viral video of San Diego deputy's fentanyl exposure raises questions

Some experts expressed doubts about the scenario. "You can't just touch fentanyl and overdose," physician Ryan Marino said.

www.nbcnews.com

Baloney. Cops on bodycams passing out and needing Narcan.

 

[Doublestandards]

So if we're going to legalize drugs then let's make sure that there are serious consequences for illegal behavior while intoxicated from your drug of choice.

fine with me

 

[vantexan]

people drink to get a buzz. Stop fooling yourself. Some just take it farther than others

Alcohol is a barbiturate so of course it has an effect. But one drink does not make you intoxicated.

 

[DriveInDriѵeOut]

Drug addicts are getting drugs whether it’s legal or not. I don’t want to keep wasting tremendous amounts of our tax money

Murderers are killing people whether it's legal or not.

 

[Doublestandards]

Baloney. Cops on bodycams passing out and needing Narcan.

It’s not baloney. They were having a panic attack. It’s science, the drug doesn’t work that way.

 

[DriveInDriѵeOut]

Kid is seriously arguing that fentanyl isn't dangerous and should be sold at stores in your neighborhood.

 

[Doublestandards]

Alcohol is a barbiturate so of course it has an effect. But one drink does not make you intoxicated.

To a small enough person it absolutely could. And I’m not even sure of your point. The majority of people drink to get a buzz, and that is not illegal. It’s perfectly legal to get drooling drunk every day

 

[vantexan]

It’s not baloney. They were having a panic attack. It’s science, the drug doesn’t work that way.

The cop I saw didn't know it was fentanyl when performing a search and discovered a pkg in the back. He passed out twice and nearly died. And fentanyl isn't just a run of the mill drug that people accidentally OD on. A very small amount can kill a lot of people and people easily OD on it. If you legalize it better be prepared for a lot of zombies walking around who'll eventually OD.

 

[Doublestandards]

The cop I saw didn't know it was fentanyl when performing a search and discovered a pkg in the back. He passed out twice and nearly died. And fentanyl isn't just a run of the mill drug that people accidentally OD on. A very small amount can kill a lot of people and people easily OD on it. If you legalize it better be prepared for a lot of zombies walking around who'll eventually OD.

I’m telling you that didn’t happen. If they overdosed on the drug it would show up in their blood result. Experts have enough experience with the drug to understand how it interacts with the body, they have been studying it for quite some time and using it in hospital settings. You can not overdose from touching it, and it’s not going into the air and being inhaled

Even so, you’re only making my point. Making it illegal is causing criminals to be in control of it and not handling it in correct ways. That would largely stop if legalized

 

[vantexan]

To a small enough person it absolutely could. And I’m not even sure of your point. The majority of people drink to get a buzz, and that is not illegal. It’s perfectly legal to get drooling drunk every day

Depends on the country. Some countries have a serious binge drinking culture. Others don't. For example in Argentina they drink wine with meals and in social situations. They don't get why some, like Americans, want to binge drink into a stupor. It's just not acceptable behavior there. Binge drinking is big in Scandinavia too.

It is perfectly legal to get drooling drunk at home and in bars(as long as you have a ride home). Public intoxication isn't legal but by your logic who is the government to tell you you can't be drunk in public?

 

[vantexan]

If you legalize it better be prepared for a lot of zombies walking around who'll eventually OD.

@Doublestandards

 

[Doublestandards]

Depends on the country. Some countries have a serious binge drinking culture. Others don't. For example in Argentina they drink wine with meals and in social situations. They don't get why some, like Americans, want to binge drink into a stupor. It's just not acceptable behavior there. Binge drinking is big in Scandinavia too.

Thank you, perfect example of why I disagree with the idea of the federal government banning alcohol for adults

Public intoxication isn't legal but by your logic who is the government to tell you you can't be drunk in public?

They shouldn’t be allowed to. As long as you’re not causing any trouble, it should be no one’s business, especially the governments, if you decide to walk home from the bar after a night out of drinking.