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[Over70irregs]

In all seriousness though. You're complaining that the ACA gives free insurance to the poor in the expense of the non poor, while also complaining that the free insurance isn’t actually free and even the 10% you had to pay was too much

You’re saying two contradicting statements and complaining in both of them

What do you think the best solution for health care is?

Socialize it.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Socialize it.

No, I believe the ACA was created to eventually force that.

 

[Doublestandards]

Very little about the healthcare system reflects capitalism. Especially after the government got more involved, forcing the ACA. I believe the only thing it did was provide the ability for people to put a insurance card in their wallet so they could say they’re covered when in reality the next medical Crisis they have would still create an extreme economic situation in their lives. Once again, the insurance companies must love that kind of mandate. Also interesting. The ACA took away choice and competition because now there really only a couple of insurances to choose from and sometimes even less, depending on the area you live.

So what’s the solution? If you don’t like socialized healthcare, then you can take away ACA, but then the poor and vulnerable and those with pre existing conditions get screwed

I’ve never really heard anyone outside of UPS happy with their health insurance. People I know making $100,000 a year pay close to $1000 a month and they’re still hit with copays and deductibles. It’s a giant scam it seems like

 

[oldngray]

No, I believe the ACA was created to eventually force that.

It was intended to fail as a way to push the US into a socialized medicine system

 

[Thebrownblob]

So what’s the solution? If you don’t like socialized healthcare, then you can take away ACA, but then the poor and vulnerable and those with pre existing conditions get screwed

I’ve never really heard anyone outside of UPS happy with their health insurance. People I know making $100,000 a year pay close to $1000 a month and they’re still hit with copays and deductibles. It’s a giant scam it seems like

Insurance is a scam. And it’s even more of a scam when it’s mandated. Insurance companies exist to make money. They also also cause the price of healthcare to go up because hospitals and doctors know they have to ask for twice as much to get what they really want so the price inflates.

Imagine the system where you’re going to receive a service that you really don’t know the price and you really can’t shop around for the best deal and services.

In a true capitalist market, there would be competition. There is none in healthcare.

Not to mention, mandating coverage causes people to have more coverage than they even need or can use.
Younger 18- 35ish people really don’t need anything other than a policy that covers some extreme event. They could be paying for doctors visits out of their pocket and getting a better deal as they don’t use the services as much as older.

 

[Doublestandards]

Insurance is a scam. And it’s even more of a scam when it’s mandated. Insurance companies exist to make money. They also also cause the price of healthcare to go up because hospitals and doctors know they have to ask for twice as much to get what they really want so the price inflates.

Imagine the system where you’re going to receive a service that you really don’t know the price and you really can’t shop around for the best deal and services.

In a true capitalist market, there would be competition. There is none in healthcare.

Not to mention, mandating coverage causes people to have more coverage than they even need or can use.
Younger 18- 35ish people really don’t need anything other than a policy that covers some extreme event. They could be paying for doctors visits out of their pocket and getting a better deal as they don’t use the services as much as older.

If I didn’t have a job At ups then I just wouldn’t get the ACA. They stopped giving fines for not signing up since 2018, so what’s the downside with doing that?

 

[Thebrownblob]

If I didn’t have a job At ups then I just wouldn’t get the ACA. They stopped giving fines for not signing up since 2018, so what’s the downside with doing that?

Because you probably couldn’t afford it and your coverage would be so poor. It would be almost like not having it because you couldn’t really use it. lol. I would say that’s a pretty big downside.
ON I’m grateful the government decided not to penalize penalize people for not buying coverage from a giant scam insurance company. thank you kind of benevolent government.

 

[Doublestandards]

Because you probably couldn’t afford it and your coverage would be so poor. It would be almost like not having it because you couldn’t really use it. lol. I would say that’s a pretty big downside.
ON I’m grateful the government decided not to penalize penalize people for not buying coverage from a giant scam insurance company. thank you kind of benevolent government.

No I’m saying just have no health insurance at all, just raw dog it and save the money you’d put towards insurance every month instead

 

[Thebrownblob]

No I’m saying just have no health insurance at all, just raw dog it and save the money you’d put towards insurance every month instead

Essentially, that’s what most are doing, so in reality the ACA didn’t fix anything actually made it worse because now the cost of healthcare has gone up because there is no choice and no competition. I have heard of people and some doctors groups who have started along people to self-pay and doctors visits are much cheaper. We haven’t even got to the prescription drug issue.

 

[MyTripisCut]

Essentially, that’s what most are doing, so in reality the ACA didn’t fix anything actually made it worse because now the cost of healthcare has gone up because there is no choice and no competition. I have heard of people and some doctors groups who have started along people to self-pay and doctors visits are much cheaper. We haven’t even got to the prescription drug issue.

The ACA has also been hindered and watered down by partisan politics since its inception. Just saying.

 

[Doublestandards]

Essentially, that’s what most are doing, so in reality the ACA didn’t fix anything actually made it worse because now the cost of healthcare has gone up because there is no choice and no competition. I have heard of people and some doctors groups who have started along people to self-pay and doctors visits are much cheaper. We haven’t even got to the prescription drug issue.

I guess the silver lining is the poor and people with pre existing conditions get health care now. Sucks for everyone else, except us were lucky

Trump almost got rid of it his first term, only came down to McCain.

But then are we comfortable with the idea of some people not being able to get help? Do you arrest people with medical debt? Deny sick people help?

What is the solution?

 

[Thebrownblob]

The ACA has also been hindered and watered down by partisan politics since its inception. Just saying.

No doubt as anytime you mix politics with anything all you get is politics.

 

[MyTripisCut]

US stock futures slide amid historic rout in foreign markets

Global markets are plunging following last week's two-day meltdown on Wall Street, and President Donald Trump says he won't back down on his sweeping new tariffs, which have roiled global trade.

6abc.com

Today should be even worse. More tariffs go into effect Wednesday.

Meanwhile there are still illegal Venezuelan gangs and Haitians eating dogs?
Also, transgender agendas in our schools?
What happened to groceries, housing? Homeless? Nah!!!

 

[Thebrownblob]

I guess the silver lining is the poor and people with pre existing conditions get health care now. Sucks for everyone else, except us were lucky

Trump almost got rid of it his first term, only came down to McCain.

But then are we comfortable with the idea of some people not being able to get help? Do you arrest people with medical debt? Deny sick people help?

What is the solution?

I grew up poor my family did not have health insurance when I was little and somehow I always had healthcare. I don’t think the ACA has changed much of anything. Poor People could always get care. We went to Clinic a lot.

 

[Over70irregs]

No, I believe the ACA was created to eventually force that.

I remember people crying about Obama when $ came out of their checks. All I know is it covered a lot of people who had no coverage? Then poli tried to dismantle it but couldn’t? Never knew the truth on that one since we had benefits already.

 

[Over70irregs]

It was intended to fail as a way to push the US into a socialized medicine system

How it survive so freaking long?

 

[Next Day Err]

Between January 20, 2021, and January 20, 2025, the S&P 500 experienced a cumulative return of approximately 53.8%.

 

[Next Day Err]

Meanwhile there are still illegal Venezuelan gangs and Haitians eating dogs?
Also, transgender agendas in our schools?

The GOP will soon be changing the subject back to something else that they'll lie about.

 

[Over70irregs]

Are we in a change of currency order or world order?

 

[newfie]

at some point leaders lead and stop making speeches.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (Representative)

• "Trade deals have been a giveaway to corporations while working people pay the price—plants shut down, wages stagnate, and the trade gap widens. We need an economy that prioritizes us, not just profits."
  (From a 2023 town hall, critiquing the systemic effects of trade policies on domestic equity.)