Trump Tariffs has Countries ready to retaliate?

[Doublestandards]

Donald Trump needs to take the off ramp, save face and call it a victory.

Would be easier for him than any other president because he can just claim victory and his base will go along with it and claim victory as well

 

[El Correcto]

Libertarians are not happy with any of this.

If it came alongside eliminating income tax like these people are touting on here then I’m sure they would mind it less.

There is two parts to the libertarian consumption tax and it is a replacement for the income tax.

 

[Doublestandards]

free and fair trade

So not bringing jobs back to America then?

 

[Doublestandards]

If it came alongside eliminating income tax like these people are touting on here then I’m sure they would mind it less.

There is two parts to the libertarian consumption tax and it is a replacement for the income tax.

True but that is not possible and no one has shown me numbers that prove otherwise

https://www.ftportfolios.com/Commentary/EconomicResearch/2025/2/27/can-tariffs-replace--the-income-tax

Not to mention Trump just increased government spending, TRILLION dollar budget for the military

 

[newfie]

So not bringing jobs back to America then?

7 trillion dollars in new investments and a bunch of jobs say thats not accurate. i noticed when trump was explaining this i channel surfed as i often do . fox and max and cspan covered his presser , CNN and MSNBC did not. If you can break away from those channels and go to the others at the scheduled time for him to speak you can get the answer to all your questions as he explains it.

 

[Doublestandards]

7 trillion dollars in new investments and a bunch of jobs say thats not accurate. i noticed when trump was explaining this i channel surfed as i often do . fox and max and cspan covered his presser , CNN and MSNBC did not. If you can break away from those channels and go to the others at the scheduled time for him to speak you can get the answer to all your questions as he explains it.

Your 7 trillion in investments has already been debunked

You’d think you’d learn that you can’t trust what Trump says after he claimed these were “reciprocal tariffs”. Trump is a great salesman, but he is a liar

 

[newfie]

Your 7 trillion in investments has already been debunked

You’d think you’d learn that you can’t trust what Trump says after he claimed these were “reciprocal tariffs”. Trump is a great salesman, but he is a liar

i gave you the whole list , your debunked has been debunked. i do find it interesting . you clearly don't educate yourself on anything but just sit here and make things up and argue your made up points.

 

[Doublestandards]

i gave you the whole list , your debunked has been debunked. i do find it interesting . you clearly don't educate yourself on anything but just sit here and make things up and argue your made up points.

1. The list you gave didn’t add up to $7 trillion. Not even close

2. Some on that list were chip companies, which you ignored Biden’s Chips and Science act which was the whole point to bring chip production to America through incentives

3. Multiple parts of that list were companies who flaked, or saying they “might” do it with nothing definitive

A.K.A: FAKE NEWS

 

[newfie]

1. The list you gave didn’t add up to $7 trillion. Not even close

what number did you come with? again if you actually educated yourself you wouldnt have to make up an argument here.

 

[MAKAVELI]

Yep, tariffs bringing back jobs.

Microsoft backs away from $1bn data center plans in Licking County, Ohio

Another data center project bites the dust

www.datacenterdynamics.com

 

[Doublestandards]

what number did you come with? again if you actually educated yourself you wouldnt have to make up an argument here.

— Project Stargate, led by Japan-based Softbank and U.S.-based OpenAI and Oracle, announced a $500 billion private investment in U.S.-based artificial intelligence infrastructure.
— Apple announced a $500 billion investment in U.S. manufacturing and training.
— Nvidia announced it will invest hundreds of billions of dollars over the next four years in U.S.-based manufacturing.
— Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC) announced a $100 billion investment in U.S.-based chips manufacturing.
— Eli Lilly and Company announced a $27 billion investment in domestic manufacturing.
— United Arab Emirates-based DAMAC Properties announced a $20 billion investment in new U.S.-based data centers.
— France-based CMA CGM, a global shipping giant, announced a $20 billion investment in U.S. shipping and logistics, creating 10,000 new jobs.
— United Arab Emirates-based ADQ and U.S.-based Energy Capital Partners announced a $25 billion investment in U.S. data centers and energy infrastructure.
— South Korean automaker Hyundai announced a $20 billion investment — including $5.8 billion for a new steel plant in Louisiana, which will create nearly 1,500 jobs, amid their pledge to “further localize production in the U.S.”
— Merck announced it will invest $8 billion in the U.S. over the next several years after opening a new $1 billion North Carolina manufacturing facility.
— Clarios announced a $6 billion plan to expand its domestic manufacturing operations.
— GE Aerospace announced a $1 billion investment in manufacturing across 16 states — creating 5,000 new jobs.
— Stellantis announced a $5 billion investment in its U.S. manufacturing network — including re-opening an Illinois manufacturing plant — as it pledges to increase domestic vehicle production.
— Schneider Electric announced it will invest $700 million over the next four years in U.S. energy infrastructure.
— GE Vernova announced it will invest nearly $600 million in U.S. manufacturing over the next two years, which will create more than 1,500 new jobs.
— London-based Diageo announced a $415 million investment in a new Alabama manufacturing facility.
— Dublin-based Eaton Corporation announced a $340 million investment in a new South Carolina-based manufacturing facility for its three-phase transformers.
— Germany-based Siemens announced a $285 million investment in U.S. manufacturing and AI data centers, which will create more than 900 new skilled manufacturing jobs.
— Paris Baguette announced a $160 million investment to construct a manufacturing plant in Texas.
— Switzerland-based ABB announced a $120 million investment to expand production of its low-voltage electrification products in Tennessee and Mississippi.
— Saica Group, a Spain-based corrugated packaging maker, announced plans to build a $110 million new manufacturing facility in Anderson, Indiana.
— Paris-based Saint-Gobain announced a new $40 million NorPro manufacturing facility in Wheatfield, New York.
— India-based Sygene International announced a $36.5 million acquisition of a Baltimore biologics manufacturing facility.
— Asahi Group Holdings, one of the largest Japanese beverage makers, announced a $35 million investment to boost production at its Wisconsin plant.
— Honda is expected to produce its next-generation Civic hybrid model in Indiana.
— Nissan is considering moving production from Mexico to the U.S.
— Rolls-Royce is expected to shift production to the U.S. and expand its domestic workforce.
— Volkswagen is considering shifting production of the high-end Audi and Porsche brands to the U.S.
— Volvo is considering expanding its U.S.-based output.
— LG is considering moving its refrigerator manufacturing from Mexico to Tennessee.
— Italian spirits group Campari is “assessing the opportunities to expand its production in the U.S.”
— Swedish hygiene product manufacturer Essity is considering shifting production to the U.S.
— Taiwan-based Compal Electronics is considering a U.S.-based expansion.
— Taiwan-based Inventec is expected to expand its manufacturing operations into Texas.
— LVMH, a French luxury giant, is “seriously considering” an expansion to its U.S.-based production capabilities.
— Cra-Z-Art, the biggest toymaker in the U.S., said it will move a “large percentage” of its China-based manufacturing back home.
— Prepac, a Canadian furniture manufacturer, announced it will move production from Canada to the U.S.
— Lear is considering moving its production to the U.S.
— Half of Japanese companies say they’ll boost U.S. investment, largely due to tariffs

There’s the list you gave.

Now let’s ignore the fact of the chips companies in there and ignore Biden’s chips and science act, and we’ll just pretend it’s from Trump and give him the credit for your sake

Now let’s ignore the companies that flaked, we’ll still add them in for your sake

Let’s be EXTREMELY generous and when you list companies that say “might invest hundreds of billions” we’ll put it at 500 billion

We’re not even getting past $2 trillion. And that’s being VERY generous and ignoring all of the above

So what’s the response now? And where did this $7 trillion come from?

 

[vantexan]

Imagine what we would have heard from Trump and the Republicans if it had been Biden and the Democrats doing this.

Difference is Trump and the Republicans are stepping up to at least try to keep the country from collapsing while the Democrats were barreling down the highway towards insolvency. And for the record I don't see spending a trillion on defense as helping to fix the situation we're in. If DOGE goes through everything else but refuses addressing the ridiculous amounts charged by defense contractors then we know, if there was any doubt, who the real power behind the throne is.

 

[Doublestandards]

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1909764953780728060?s=42&t=wbt9jj560LKSsyZmtTpD9g

 

[Doublestandards]

The EU offered Trump zero for zero tariffs, free trade

Trump declined, and said they must also buy $350 billion dollars worth of energy from us

Trump says EU must buy $350B of US energy to get tariff relief

Brussels’ zero-for-zero tariff offer not enough, U.S. president says, but indicates he’s open to a deal if the bloc commits to closing the trade deficit in goods.

www.politico.eu

 

[Doublestandards]

EU targets Trump’s red states with tariffs on US trucks, cigarettes and ice cream

European trade officials sure know how to have fun.

www.politico.eu

 

[Over70irregs]

EU targets Trump’s red states with tariffs on US trucks, cigarettes and ice cream

European trade officials sure know how to have fun.

www.politico.eu

 

[newfie]

There’s the list you gave.

Now let’s ignore the fact of the chips companies in there and ignore Biden’s chips and science act, and we’ll just pretend it’s from Trump and give him the credit for your sake

Now let’s ignore the companies that flaked, we’ll still add them in for your sake

Let’s be EXTREMELY generous and when you list companies that say “might invest hundreds of billions” we’ll put it at 500 billion

We’re not even getting past $2 trillion. And that’s being VERY generous and ignoring all of the above

So what’s the response now? And where did this $7 trillion come from?

you didnt answer the question because you never tried to add it up. you just made an argument simply to make an argument.

 

[newfie]

The EU offered Trump zero for zero tariffs, free trade

Trump declined, and said they must also buy $350 billion dollars worth of energy from us

Trump says EU must buy $350B of US energy to get tariff relief

Brussels’ zero-for-zero tariff offer not enough, U.S. president says, but indicates he’s open to a deal if the bloc commits to closing the trade deficit in goods.

www.politico.eu

sounds like a win / win. europe neeeds the energy ,their win mill experiment has failed miserably

 

[newfie]

grok is your friend

As of 2024, approximately 13.4% of total U.S. goods imports come from China. This figure is based on data showing that U.S. goods imports from China totaled $438.9 billion out of an estimated $3,295.6 billion in total goods imports for that year.

The majority of these imports from China consist of manufactured goods, with the following product categories being the most significant:

1. Electrical Machinery and Equipment: This includes items like smartphones, televisions, and other consumer electronics. In 2023, this category was valued at around $150 billion, making up a substantial portion of imports from China (approximately 35% of the total value of Chinese imports). This remains a dominant category in 2024.
2. Machinery, Including Computers: This encompasses computers, laptops, and other mechanical appliances, valued at about $130 billion in 2023 (roughly 30% of imports from China). This category continues to be a major contributor in 2024.
3. Toys, Games, and Furniture: Products like toys, video game consoles, bedding, and furniture accounted for around $40 billion in 2023 (about 9% of imports from China). These consumer goods remain significant due to their high demand in the U.S. market.

These three categories alone typically represent over 70% of the total value of goods imported from China, with electrical machinery and computers being the largest drivers. Other notable imports include apparel, plastics, and chemicals, but they constitute smaller shares compared to the top three.

As of 2023, the most recent year with comprehensive data, approximately 6.7% of China's total goods imports came from the United States.

China imports a variety of goods from the United States, with the most significant categories based on recent trade data including:

• Oilseeds and Grains: Soybeans are the top U.S. export to China, valued at around $13.4 billion in 2024. Other grains like corn and wheat also contribute significantly, supporting China's agricultural needs.
• Fuels: This includes crude oil and petroleum gas, totaling about $14.7 billion in 2024, reflecting China's demand for energy resources.
• Electrical Machinery: Valued at approximately $15.3 billion in 2024, this category includes semiconductors and components, crucial for China's tech industries, despite U.S. export restrictions on advanced chips.
• Aerospace Products: Aircraft parts and industrial machinery, particularly for civil aviation, are major imports, though exact figures vary year-to-year.
• Meat Products: Poultry, pork, and beef are imported to meet China's protein demand, with notable volumes in recent years.

In 2024, total U.S. goods exports to China were approximately $143.5 billion, down slightly from $147.7 billion in 2023.

 

[El Correcto]

The EU offered Trump zero for zero tariffs, free trade

Trump declined, and said they must also buy $350 billion dollars worth of energy from us

Trump says EU must buy $350B of US energy to get tariff relief

Brussels’ zero-for-zero tariff offer not enough, U.S. president says, but indicates he’s open to a deal if the bloc commits to closing the trade deficit in goods.

www.politico.eu

His negotiation tactics remind me of the grandpa from Talladega nights in Applebees.