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[UnionStrong]

Saying there is corruption in Ukraine is not the same as saying you support Putin.

Exactly

 

[vantexan]

I never supported that. Ukraine is a corrupt country with anti-Semitic sentiments but I never supported Putin. You sound very left wing on this subject, unless I believe what you do about Ukraine I’m lumped in with Putin lovers. It’s not a black and white issue. I can see gray when it’s visible.

Again, it's not all about you. But you've been very vocal that the Ukrainians don't deserve our help in any way. If we don't stand up to large countries run by dictators swallowing up their neighbors then what good are we as leaders of the Free World? I don't like our country starting wars to make money and no doubt there's a lot of this motivating our government. But we do need to stand against naked aggression. Set boundaries, no blank checks, tell Zelensky they may need to concede some territory. Those ethnic Russians in the east have been rebelling for over 10 years. If we truly are running everything then we need to put a timeline on it and get it over with.

 

[sailfish]

but think Ukrainians shouldn't do the same against a brutal regime.

You keep saying that but I've yet to have seen it anywhere nor have you cited an example.

 

[vantexan]

Saying there is corruption in Ukraine is not the same as saying you support Putin.

Plenty here at the start of the war were very supportive of Putin.

 

[vantexan]

You keep saying that but I've yet to have seen it anywhere nor have you cited an example.

I'm sorry but I don't have all the posts saved. I can research it if you like.

 

[UnionStrong]

Again, it's not all about you. But you've been very vocal that the Ukrainians don't deserve our help in any way. If we don't stand up to large countries run by dictators swallowing up their neighbors then what good are we as leaders of the Free World? I don't like our country starting wars to make money and no doubt there's a lot of this motivating our government. But we do need to stand against naked aggression. Set boundaries, no blank checks, tell Zelensky they may need to concede some territory. Those ethnic Russians in the east have been rebelling for over 10 years. If we truly are running everything then we need to put a timeline on it and get it over with.

Then why did you say it was all about me? Are you really integrity’s alt account?

 

[UnionStrong]

Plenty here at the start of the war were very supportive of Putin.

Go fight for them if you feel that strongly.

 

[vantexan]

Then why did you say it was all about me? Are you really integrity’s alt account?

I didn't. I said it isn't all about you.

 

[oldngray]

Plenty here at the start of the war were very supportive of Putin.

Not so much supporters of Putin. It mostly started at the beginning of Trump when Biden and Obama cronies squashed any investigations into corruption in Ukraine. Russia didn't invade until Trump left office.

 

[sailfish]

what good are we as leaders of the Free World?

What free world? We live in a surveillance state that steals almost half your income and will send armed stormtroopers to murder you if you resist then spends that money on four thousand page bills of more restrictive bull that s over the very ones who were robbed in the first place and is run by mouthbreathing troglodytes that aren't held accountable for anything.

 

[UnionStrong]

I didn't. I said it isn't all about you.

 

[sailfish]

I'm sorry but I don't have all the posts saved. I can research it if you like.

I wouldn't mind seeing that but before you get ahead of yourself I'll warn you that I'm not going to accept someone saying the U.S. shouldn't fund Ukraine's war as saying Ukraine shouldn't fight Russia.

 

[vantexan]

What free world? We live in a surveillance state that steals almost half your income and will send armed stormtroopers to murder you if you resist then spends that money on four thousand page bills of more restrictive bull that s over the very ones who were robbed in the first place and is run by mouthbreathing troglodytes that aren't held accountable for anything.

And? No one is holding a gun to my head forcing me to participate. I don't have to ask permission from my government to move anywhere within the country. I can get a passport and leave the country without permission. Very little affects me. Much more concerned with the social issues than whether my rights are being restricted.

 

[UnionStrong]

And? No one is holding a gun to my head forcing me to participate. I don't have to ask permission from my government to move anywhere within the country. I can get a passport and leave the country without permission. Very little affects me. Much more concerned with the social issues than whether my rights are being restricted.

 

[vantexan]

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Leave it to a union guy to have a lot of Mafia memes.

 

[sailfish]

No one is holding a gun to my head forcing me to participate.

Only because you're participating. Try not.

Much more concerned with the social issues than whether my rights are being restricted.

That's where we differ.

 

[vantexan]

Only because you're participating. Try not.


That's where we differ.

If it makes you happy, it can't be that bad.

Sheryl Crow

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

I'm reading Zelensky refused to negotiate with Russia as long as Putin was in power. He dropped that demand in late '22 because the U.S. encouraged him to reconsider.

You're wrong.

 

[vantexan]

You're wrong.

Well, you have the inside scoop on everything so I must be.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Well, you have the inside scoop on everything so I must be.

Okay.
The fact remains.
Western nations urged Ukraine not to make a peace deal. They have been used as a pawn.