Union failure

[CoffeeStainedUniform]

New Timer in Progression here: I've been luckier than most, but admit that if this job had been as sweet a gig as it used to be, there wouldn't have been a swwet bid route for me.

It comes at a cost. I drove in -60° temps this last winter for $21/hour. My start times are past 10am. I get the occasional 2tons of Amazon dogfood on my truck.

I don't blame the old guard though. We make more than any of our competitors, we have better benefits. Our jobs are secure. All of this is a direct result of our Union taking care of us.

Things change, this last contract was a result of UPS not being comparatively economically viable in the industry. We sold out the 22.4 drivers but the choice was the company folding or figuring out how to pay us less. Can we get 401k matches instead of pensions next time round?

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

New Timer in Progression here: I've been luckier than most, but admit that if this job had been as sweet a gig as it used to be, there wouldn't have been a swwet bid route for me.

It comes at a cost. I drove in -60° temps this last winter for $21/hour. My start times are past 10am. I get the occasional 2tons of Amazon dogfood on my truck.

I don't blame the old guard though. We make more than any of our competitors, we have better benefits. Our jobs are secure. All of this is a direct result of our Union taking care of us.

Things change, this last contract was a result of UPS not being comparatively economically viable in the industry. We sold out the 22.4 drivers but the choice was the company folding or figuring out how to pay us less. Can we get 401k matches instead of pensions next time round?

The union will never allow 401k matches

 

[542thruNthru]

The union will never allow 401k matches

That's money they want going into the pension. No way in hell they ever allow it.

 

[CoffeeStainedUniform]

The union will never allow 401k matches

Probably not, but it's a far superior retirement program and I'll speak up in the small chance it'll make a difference.

 

[542thruNthru]

Probably not, but it's a far superior retirement program and I'll speak up in the small chance it'll make a difference.

Its brought up every contract proposal meeting here by multiple people. It's always shot down and called a horrible idea.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Its brought up every contract proposal meeting here by multiple people. It's always shot down and called a horrible idea.

The union wants that money

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Its brought up every contract proposal meeting here by multiple people. It's always shot down and called a horrible idea.

No argument from me. Why can't it be a little bit of both?

 

[CoffeeStainedUniform]

No argument from me. Why can't it be a little bit of both?

Just like SS, i'd be willing do donate if it means I could avoid the same trap.

 

[542thruNthru]

No argument from me. Why can't it be a little bit of both?

I'd love that.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

I'd love that.

So would. A lot of us.

 

[MyTripisCut]

New Timer in Progression here: I've been luckier than most, but admit that if this job had been as sweet a gig as it used to be, there wouldn't have been a swwet bid route for me.

It comes at a cost. I drove in -60° temps this last winter for $21/hour. My start times are past 10am. I get the occasional 2tons of Amazon dogfood on my truck.

I don't blame the old guard though. We make more than any of our competitors, we have better benefits. Our jobs are secure. All of this is a direct result of our Union taking care of us.

Things change, this last contract was a result of UPS not being comparatively economically viable in the industry. We sold out the 22.4 drivers but the choice was the company folding or figuring out how to pay us less. Can we get 401k matches instead of pensions next time round?

Don’t believe the hype, this company is far from folding. The union is probably closer to folding than UPS.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

The union needs that money

Fixed it for you.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Just like SS, i'd be willing do donate if it means I could avoid the same trap.

You gotta take care of yourself. Stay out of Debt, have a nice bank account and put money away on a 401k or a ROTH IRA

 

[silverbullet2893]

You gotta take care of yourself. Stay out of Debt, have a nice bank account and put money away on a 401k or a ROTH IRA

that. Spend it like it ain’t yours.


I’ll be dead before retirement anyways.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Fixed it for you.

Yes they do. Your money can pay for some nice negotiating trips

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

that. Spend it like it ain’t yours.


I’ll be dead before retirement anyways.

I have a wife that has been good to me and my children. I don't want her to want for anything

 

[SameRightsForAll]

Then quit, I wouldn't do business with anyone I thought was ripping me off. "provide the mob with teamster loans" Exactly what century are you living in?

Trailer Monkey, don't embarrass yourself any further. Everybody knows the IBT is run by democrat communists who give your dues to other commies without your permission.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

Yes they do. Your money can pay for some nice negotiating trips

More like they need the UPS pension money to keep their pensions afloat. If they lost it, those pensions would fold, and there would be a mass exodus out of the teamsters. The union would fold not much later.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

More like they need the UPS pension money to keep their pensions afloat. If they lost it, those pensions would fold, and there would be a mass exodus out of the teamsters. The union would fold not much later.

That's why 22.4 jobs was put into this contract

 

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[QUOTE="CoffeeStainedUniform, post: 4086566, member: 73423"
Things change, this last contract was a result of UPS not being comparatively economically viable in the industry. We sold out the 22.4 drivers but the choice was the company folding or figuring out how to pay us less. Can we get 401k matches instead of pensions next time round?[/QUOTE]
Give us a break.

We're not "comparatively economically viable"? Compared to who? The post office who lost over 1.5 billion dollars in 12 weeks?

The sky is falling.