UPS and Teamsters Discuss Two-Tier Wages, Sunday Deliveries---WSJ
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bowhnterdon
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I seem to recall something about if less than 1/2 the members vote, and that is a given, that it takes 2/3 of a no vote to shoot down a contract. If not, I assume Hoffa can enforce the master? I really don’t know for sure. Any insight out there?
BrownFlush
Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
The upper echelon did not want to snuff them out.
They had more than one opportunity to do it, and did not.
They had and have their reasons for allowing them to be what they are now.
Its hard to think past our noses sometimes and think future like corporate.
Being the only team playing, down the road, maybe not so good.
Having to negotiate a union contract is an example.
Big time backfire
BrownFlush
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I don't think so. I think its worked just like they wanted.
When they let it happen, UPS couldn't handle the volume they had. They can't handle it now even with the scab company in full force.
The center I worked at was built in 1973. In 1979 , when I hired, they were running 26 routes. They ran 21 yesterday. Figure maybe 2 routes less because of technology.
Think of the real estate, the trucks, the workforce they would have had to invest in to handle the volume. Mega capital.
They could have wrote a check for a 100 times what Fred wrote for RPS, but they let him have it for more reasons than you would like to think.
When they let it happen, UPS couldn't handle the volume they had. They can't handle it now even with the scab company in full force.
The center I worked at was built in 1973. In 1979 , when I hired, they were running 26 routes. They ran 21 yesterday. Figure maybe 2 routes less because of technology.
Think of the real estate, the trucks, the workforce they would have had to invest in to handle the volume. Mega capital.
They could have wrote a check for a 100 times what Fred wrote for RPS, but they let him have it for more reasons than you would like to think.
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With the new electronic voting the Teamsters Just used in the ABF contract they got a 65% voter turn out. Thats almost unheard of. WOW
Coldworld
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Maybe all of these Millennials will finally start voting now???
UnconTROLLed
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I am preaching VOTE YES to them...we need to organize members to ratify the great contract the IBT will deliver!
Nice try, Russian troll bot management!
UnconTROLLed
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Funny how everyone's rah-rah Teamsters, but few have faith in the IBT negotiating a good contract. 
Funny how everyone's rah-rah Teamsters, but few have faith in the IBT negotiating a good contract.
It’s not following/critiquing contract negotiations and not holding leaders accountable that weakens unions. Doling out tough love is inherently supportive whether it’s directed at your union, your friends or your kids.
You’re here to misinform because the Union either couldn’t protect you when you made a mistake or you left it for a management gig and have regrets. Fair enough. But your baloney isn’t fooling anybody.
Eh, I dunno. Apple typically lets other companies pioneer features/technologies before releasing its own relatively perfected form of it. Do we want UPS to get it first, or get it right? I dunno if you can do both if your corporate ship is so big that it’s hard and slow to make turns.
UnconTROLLed
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sarcasm is not your second language
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Yeah dude, did they vote it down because they were totally against it?
I'm sure the last debacle primed the voters engines. L89 had better turnout than that.
Typically, when people really hate or like a cba the voter turn out % goes up and scepticism is pronounced this time around.
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I believe the Master passed but at least five supplements went down.
Well, if it can be done on a phone I think they are golden.
I have faith in the committee, but misery loves company and in the end is more popular.Funny how everyone's rah-rah Teamsters, but few have faith in the IBT negotiating a good contract.
UnconTROLLed
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You are okay with the concession-laden contracts of the past 20 years, and the IBT pressuring and persuading yes votes from members
BrownFlush
Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
Tin soldiers and Hoffa's comin', you're finally on your own. This summer I hear the drummin', gonna be a strike come August one.
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