watdaflock?
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UPS Shooting- San Francisco (Rant & News thread)
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Coldworld
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Is the history of mental illness something ups is going to spin to give this needless tragedy a "reason" for happening....take management and company liability out of the equation....
Catatonic
Nine Lives
And that's just from the drivers!
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Catatonic
Nine Lives
UPS is happy - reduced wages.
IBT is happy because no pensions to pay out.
Catatonic
Nine Lives
UPS tried to get rid of him but the Union blocked their efforts.
We had one of those.
'Resigned' after he blockaded his wife and himself in his house armed with a 30-06 for five hours.
FrigidFTSup
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I'm a huge critic of the culture around this place, I think I've made that pretty clear in the past. But someone who would snap and straight up murder someone over this job has issues beyond just their career. I think saying "Yeah but.." is nothing but an attempt to justify his actions to some degree.
I live my life the same way. But we have a lot of employees. There are great managers, and there are terrible managers. There are great hourlies, and there are terrible hourlies. It's just the nature of anything in life.
FrigidFTSup
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Why are you defending this guy like a victim? He is a coward.
Gotout
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I would be shocked if it wasn't Management. I'm not making light of it but, if it were anything other than the center manager and the dispatcher I'd be shocked.
Gotout
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I'm surprised that I'm this far into the thread and no one has mentioned that the exact same thing happened a few years ago in Birmingham, AL. I'm sad to see that it has happened again, but not terrible surprised.
When you push people to the breaking point, some of them break.
I was a center manager for several years, towing the company line. There were times when I actually thought "I hope this guy doesn't come back in here and...". And I considered myself one of the decent ones.
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Very sorry to hear what happened....thoughts and prayers to all involved and affected.
When you take the higher than average workload, then add 30 to 50% more, then lower the time standards, then tell drivers THEY are the ones not performing and threatening their jobs, roof over heads, food on table.........how long until someone thats on the edge finally snaps?
When you take the higher than average workload, then add 30 to 50% more, then lower the time standards, then tell drivers THEY are the ones not performing and threatening their jobs, roof over heads, food on table.........how long until someone thats on the edge finally snaps?
Not a word of the shootings in national or local news in this area so far. thoughts and prayers to all involved.
Coldworld
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Not defending the guy.... stop trying to make the company out like they are angels... any long term employee here could tell stories of just how low and pathetic a corporation can treat its employees, both hourly AND management....
Turdferguson
Just a turd
Wrong.
We do it differently here
Coldworld
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How many more have to die until ups starts thinking to themselves..." could some of our outdated policies and such be causing more harm than good.....
Turdferguson
Just a turd
This was moved from current events. You are not allowed to make stuff up
UPS1907
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UPS is the best at spinning / downplaying tragedy, but today, UPS actually caught a break. The news is being dominated by the shooting of a Republican at a baseball field for an upcoming game. The media is swarming to this.
No one even died like the tragedy in SF, but politics comes first.
UPS will have no problem burying this tragedy with today's other news.
Coldworld
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Wow.....really???
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Nothing by 1030 anymore
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I'm sure security would have found gun. Ha
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