UPS's master strike plan???

[ManInBrown]

What's their end game....are you scared and wish you would have bought that other house?

Scared? Other house?

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Urgent Care,....let them send you to the ER.

Too many people, for too long just went to the ER for everything.

There is not in network urgent care here.

I agree too many people go to the ER when they shouldn't. If you check my post history you will see I was saying what you're saying when the switch to teamcare changes were made.

I was wrong. It's a complicated issue.

What I will say is that teamcare has been great with appeals and dealing with hospitals. If you get a rep who isn't helping you, hang up and try again the next day. Most of them are awesome.

 

[Thebrownblob]

There is not in network urgent care here.

Is there any place out of network? Pretty good insurance I’ve never really had a problem going anywhere.

 

[Bubblehead]

There is not in network urgent care here.

I agree too many people go to the ER when they shouldn't. If you check my post history you will see I was saying what you're saying when the switch to teamcare changes were made.

I was wrong. It's a complicated issue.

What I will say is that teamcare has been great with appeals and dealing with hospitals. If you get a rep who isn't helping you, hang up and try again the next day. Most of them are awesome.

I have been here waaay too long to check post history, but am glad you picked up on what my point was.

....and I was on the Company plan and wanted nothing to do with TeamCare when it was implemented, but it has been pretty good to me.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Is there any place out of network? Pretty good insurance I’ve never really had a problem going anywhere.

I don't think you get the in network discounts or limits on what they can charge. Just don't do it.

 

[Its_a_me]

If you're admitted.
If you go to the emergency room for something other than same day accidental bodily injury, and they don't admit you to the hospital..... good luck with that big ass bill.

My big ass bill was $120 and change total (across 4 bills and would have been cheaper if the ED was staffed with workers employed by the hospital and not independent emergency room physicians).

Apparently you don't know our health care...

 

[RTS313]

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

My big ass bill was $120 and change total (across 4 bills and would have been cheaper if the ED was staffed with workers employed by the hospital and not independent emergency room physicians).

This is part of the problem.

You get a hospital bill.
Then you get bills from the random nurse practitioner, attending physician, x ray technician, obgyn, specialist, etc. etc.

It can be a lot to work through.

Apparently you don't know our health care...

Um... I'm fairly familiar with it my friend.

 

[govols019]

Urgent Care,....let them send you to the ER.

Too many people, for too long just went to the ER for everything.

Did that..still got a big bill from the ER visit.

 

[Its_a_me]

This is part of the problem.

You get a hospital bill.
Then you get bills from the random nurse practitioner, attending physician, x ray technician, obgyn, specialist, etc. etc.

It can be a lot to work through.

Um... I'm fairly familiar with it my friend.

1) It is dependent on the state you live in. For example, in Michigan Surprise Billing legislation was signed into law in Oct 2020. It provides for both non-emergency and emergency situations.

In non-emergency situations, out-of-network providers are now required to disclose the estimated cost of care to you at least 14 days in advance of your planned service (or within 14 days if you appointment is sooner). Your signature is required if you agree to pay the amount not covered by your health plan. They make it clear if they are not an in-network provider and that you can contact the health plan to seek in-network providers for a lower cost.

In emergency situations--or if an out-of-network provider fails to give you the required disclosure before your planned service--you cannot be balance billed.

2) The federal government passed surprise billing legislation in December 2020. This went into effect on Jan. 1, 2022.
Your health plan generally must

• Cover emergency services without requiring you to get approval for services in advance (prior authorization).
• Cover emergency services by out-of-network providers.
• Base what you owe the provider or facility (cost-sharing) on what it would pay an in-network provider or facility and show that amount in your explanation of benefits.
• Count any amount you pay for emergency services or out-of-network services toward your deductible and out-of-pocket limit.

So for our plan it means you can never exceed $1,100 (max limit plus deductible) out of pocket.

3) Plus...it's becoming less of an issue via the market anyways:

The surge in hospital employment of physicians predated Obamacare by at least six years, and had two key drivers. The first was independent baby-boomer physicians — particularly those in primary care — found themselves unable to recruit new partners. Newer physicians, heavily burdened by student debt, were not inclined either to take on entrepreneurial risk or the 60-hour work weeks independent practice entailed.

The second was cuts in Medicare payments for office-based imaging. Thanks to the Deficit Reduction Act of 2005, specialties such as cardiology, orthopedics, and medical oncology that relied on the revenue that imaging generated were hit hard. As a result, many found it advantageous to be employed by hospitals.
...
Then, beginning in 2009, the Obama administration’s policies increased the exodus of physicians from private practices to health systems.

Do Most Hospitals Benefit from Directly Employing Physicians?

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I don't know where you live, but a canned letter to your state reps on the issue would probably take less time then complaining about it on here. Get enough letters to them and they'll take up the issue.

 

[upschuck]

If you're admitted.
If you go to the emergency room for something other than same day accidental bodily injury, and they don't admit you to the hospital..... good luck with that big ass bill.

That's why I said hospitalization. Otherwise, it pays same as a doctor's visit.

 

[UPSmechanicinblue]

Gd I hope tf so this lately is for the birds.

I mean you mainly pointed out a lot of just obvious things that are face value. I think you’re reading too deep into stuff. Not sure how many exhausts you’ve walked into while working on a lift over the years but might wanna get your head checked.

I am just wondering what her plan is, maybe hold out and starve people out to come back to work? everything i stated is being planned, I was just wondering other peoples thoughts.

Gd I hope tf so this lately is for the birds.

I mean you mainly pointed out a lot of just obvious things that are face value. I think you’re reading too deep into stuff. Not sure how many exhausts you’ve walked into while working on a lift over the years but might wanna get your head checked.

1997 plan was to get out of central states pension(maybe others ) to a company run one. Things are heating up the same as the 97 but they are preparing way more. All they did back then was send the sups to the accounts letting them know that packages maybe stuck in the system and no guarantees. UPS tried so hard to get a vote on their last final offer during the strike, they passed out their offer to the strike lines. It had a sign on bonus so probably would have passed being part time majority would be good with anything with nice quick big check. The union never let it go up for vote. They even asked president Clinton to force us back to work, he said no and went on vacation. In 1997 they had a plan, it didnt work, I had to watch how the strike played out to come to this conclusion, never knowing during what it was. I guess they will go out on strike this time with no plan is why I need my head checked? Or do you have the answer?

 

[Wally]

 

[DOK]

I think we will absolutely be on strike come 8/1. Just my opinion I don’t think UPS has any intention on meeting the unions demands on Tuesday. I think it’s all for show so they can say ,we tried. We made an offer and they didn’t accept it. I think the company has been planning for this for a long time. Whether that planning or how they execute will be successful who knows.

Buddy does a pickup at one of our biggest customers and they have UPS supervisors working at this location coordinating the outbound and inbound. Every day they work there, they don’t work at the UPS building. All three got told weeks ago their last day there will be 7-28. Back to the building and their assignments haven’t been decided yet. This strike is happening. The company has no intentions of making a deal IMO. Hope I’m wrong.

The sups in our building have yet to hear any real work stoppage planning, only what do they want to to do, drive, helper etc. Seems to me something planning for something this HUGE would have to have been done ahead of time, this isn’t something they can attempt to accomplish on the fly.

 

[some1else]

the union should just invest that 350 million into ups,

I’m thinking of that other thread where they calculated if you buy 200$ of puts and we go on strike it would be worth about 3500$. Imagine buying 350million of puts.

 

[Wally]

The sups in our building have yet to hear any real work stoppage planning, only what do they want to to do, drive, helper etc. Seems to me something planning for something this HUGE would have to have been done ahead of time, this isn’t something they can attempt to accomplish on the fly.

Lol, this is UPS, the same company that released new diads without knowing they do not work in rainy weather.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Lol, this is UPS, the same company that released new diads without knowing they do not work in rainy weather.

I really hate DIAD 6

 

[Mr.Blonde]

The sups in our building have yet to hear any real work stoppage planning, only what do they want to to do, drive, helper etc. Seems to me something planning for something this HUGE would have to have been done ahead of time, this isn’t something they can attempt to accomplish on the fly.

Thats how ups manages to get by. They cant even “forecast” volume correctly. many times weve heard from them that we are either under or over 2000+ pieces. You know what happens? They start planning 45min before start time.

 

[RetiredIE]

So much conspiracy it’s like it’s New Year’s Eve 1999

Or July 31, 1997....

 

[DELACROIX]

The sups in our building have yet to hear any real work stoppage planning, only what do they want to to do, drive, helper etc. Seems to me something planning for something this HUGE would have to have been done ahead of time, this isn’t something they can attempt to accomplish on the fly.

Usually by August they are planning for peak.