What can you get fired for?

[quad decade guy]

We have that in the Central Region.


ARTICLE 17—DISCHARGE OR SUSPENSIONS

(g) an avoidable runaway accident;

https://teamster.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/ups18centralregionsupp.pdf

Also, it could fall under Article 18 section 3 in the Master, if a supplement doesn't have specific language.


Trying to contractually help @quad decade guy ?

Thanks.

I am surprised he asked.....

 

[DriverNerd]

How can you be fired for fighting off company property?

Maybe they were still in uniform.

 

[eats packages]

The SEC one is a bit worrisome because some of these saturday routes you legitimately sheet a bunch of stuff ni1 sec because codes and fobs go missing or are not provided. In addition to human error like showing at the wrong apartment.

That is. The company has not yet specified how much effort should be given in these circumstances. Too little is avoiding work? Too much is stealing time?

 

[UnionStrong]

Maybe they were still in uniform.

That will do it.

 

[SorryLazyPOS]

Recording lunch and not taking it, not taking a lunch at all, driving to your lunch destination when you have already started your 1 hour lunch period, sorting your truck off the clock, etc

A lot of people here do that. Never understood why.

 

[Shorts365]

That excuse typically only works once. I had just qualified when I did that so they took it easy on me. I reported it but never sheetfed it. Got called into the office the next day.

Honestly it took me 6 months to really know what “sheeting” even meant. I’m sure many of the drivers with less seniority than me still don’t know why it’s called that. Still trying to figure out why I don’t hear about Tier 1 and 2 accidents.

 

[DriverNerd]

Honestly it took me 6 months to really know what “sheeting” even meant. I’m sure many of the drivers with less seniority than me still don’t know why it’s called that. Still trying to figure out why I don’t hear about Tier 1 and 2 accidents.

UPS is too busy drilling into new hires that they have to go as fast as possible and not hit anything that all the other stuff is a distant third place.

*Edit: You do hear about tier 1 and 2 accidents, they just don't call them that.

 

[Est.1998]

Bulk stop of apple products, one of the boxes were mixed in which was for another address but I delivered it anyways. Made contact with the customer, got her name down and C.I.R, etc.

Are you on a diad 5 or 6?
A lot of drivers have been taking advantage of the new features of the 6 by simply dropping off all the bulk without scanning it, and tapping the tracking numbers in the diad.
You'll never know what is there or isn't if you bypass scanning the pkgs.

Only packages in your EDD/Manifest will do that. Any mis load needs to be identified by actual label.

I have pkgs hitching rides in my bulk all the time from other routes.
Letterboxes, and bc they all look the same, get loaded on my truck.
Sometimes i don't catch the label and the diad will alert me it's different.

 

[542thruNthru]

How can you be fired for fighting off company property?

From what I was told. It started on property at their trucks. They walked out the building through the guard shack and across the street in uniform and a passing car stopped and recorded them and called the cops. Then one came back on property and the one that got his ass kicked called his center and said. "I can't work because (Driver name) hit me." When the cops arrived the driver that got his ass kicked tried to press charges so the cops came into the building to investigate. No charges were pressed once the cop said there wasn't enough proof of who started it.

So Because the fight originated on property and they were in uniform they were fired.

 

[542thruNthru]

We have that in the Central Region.


ARTICLE 17—DISCHARGE OR SUSPENSIONS

(g) an avoidable runaway accident;

https://teamster.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/ups18centralregionsupp.pdf

Also, it could fall under Article 18 section 3 in the Master, if a supplement doesn't have specific language.


Trying to contractually help @quad decade guy ?

Well I'm pretty sure Quad is Atlantic supp. I know Central has that language. Also any accident serious enough could fall under Article 18.3 so that's cheating.

I'm just curious if Atlantic Supp has that language.

 

[Staydryitsraining]

From what I was told. It started on property at their trucks. They walked out the building through the guard shack and across the street in uniform and a passing car stopped and recorded them and called the cops. Then one came back on property and the one that got his ass kicked called his center and said. "I can't work because (Driver name) hit me." When the cops arrived the driver that got his ass kicked tried to press charges so the cops came into the building to investigate. No charges were pressed once the cop said there wasn't enough proof of who started it.

So Because the fight originated on property and they were in uniform they were fired.

Oh ok I can see that angle they would use.

 

[Staydryitsraining]

Maybe they were still in uniform.

Yea as he said in the story. If your uniform is on in any capacity the company can say at the time of bla bla bla you were representing the company.

 

[MyTripisCut]

I have pkgs hitching rides in my bulk all the time from other routes.
Letterboxes, and bc they all look the same, get loaded on my truck.
Sometimes i don't catch the label and the diad will alert me it's different.

You must have a magic Diad then. I constantly have customers giving me packages back at bulk deliveries that were scanned as delivered but don’t belong there. Diad will only alert for packages from your route, not others, when asking to combine addresses.

 

[DriverNerd]

You must have a magic Diad then. I constantly have customers giving me packages back at bulk deliveries that were scanned as delivered but don’t belong there. Diad will only alert for packages from your route, not others, when asking to combine addresses.

Exactly. Unless you get really lucky delivering a bulk stop and the first one you grab is the one not on your route.

 

[Est.1998]

You must have a magic Diad then. I constantly have customers giving me packages back at bulk deliveries that were scanned as delivered but don’t belong there. Diad will only alert for packages from your route, not others, when asking to combine addresses.

Pkgs you scanned?
If it's not in your diad, when you scan it, either first or after you've scanned another box, more times than not, the diad will show a message saying this pkg doesn't belong.

 

[MyTripisCut]

Pkgs you scanned?
If it's not in your diad, when you scan it, either first or after you've scanned another box, more times than not, the diad will show a message saying this pkg doesn't belong.

Like I said. Not here unless it’s assigned to you. Maybe on the 6? Haven’t come across this scenario yet on the 6.

 

[Est.1998]

Exactly. Unless you get really lucky delivering a bulk stop and the first one you grab is the one not on your route.

If i remember, or care, on Monday I'll record a short video and show y'all it's not magical.

 

[Est.1998]

Like I said. Not here unless it’s assigned to you. Maybe on the 6? Haven’t come across this scenario yet on the 6.

Yes on the 6.
The 5 i don't think did it.

 

[DriverNerd]

Yes on the 6.
The 5 i don't think did it.

We don't have the 6's yet and I've never used one. That would make these issues better for sure.

 

[Est.1998]

Haven’t come across this scenario yet on the 6.

We don't have the 6's yet and I've never used one.

This information you guys should've led off with.
My whole building have been using the 6 for over a month.
They took all the 5's away.