What does Memphis do about this?

[vantexan]

I am amazed that FedEx legal let's this stand and would be amazed too if the protesters didn't sue the driver and FedEx for civil damages.

Um, they went outside, wet a finger, held it up, and determined that the winds of conservatism best serve their interests. God bless'em!

 

[OutOfTheKnow]

He does not, under the law, have the right to stand in the way or prevent the expression of free speech.

In other words, he should likely be arrested.

Actually, it was his free speech right to argue their with their free speech. Basically the government has no business meddling in this situation, letting the citizens duke it out and may the best man win. Btw the best man won.

 

[OutOfTheKnow]

Please. Don't toss out technicalities to justify what this guy did. In Beijing or Moscow, you go to jail or worse if you burn their flag. Is that what you want here?

Constitutionally protected free speech. Just like Mike Pence participating in anti-abortion activities today.

The law needs to remain as it is. Those people should always have the right to burn the flag as protected free speech, just as the rest of the nation has the right to counter their free speech with free speech of their own ie. Extinguishing a burning flag in support of their nation which was lit on fire in protest of their nation. He was then attacked in the process and defended himself the quickest and most effective way available to him. I'm still shocked he wasn't fired though.

 

[Fred's Myth]

The law needs to remain as it is. Those people should always have the right to burn the flag as protected free speech, just as the rest of the nation has the right to counter their free speech with free speech of their own ie. Extinguishing a burning flag in support of their nation which was lit on fire in protest of their nation. He was then attacked in the process and defended himself the quickest and most effective way available to him. I'm still shocked he wasn't fired though.

You liberals just don't get it. The protection provided by the Constitution is against GOVERNMENT intervention. It does NOT provide against private citizens expressing their beliefs in response.

 

[vantexan]

You liberals just don't get it. The protection provided by the Constitution is against GOVERNMENT intervention. It does NOT provide against private citizens expressing their beliefs in response.

Pretty sure they believe everything is set up to let them do what they want, and what they want trumps whatever anyone else wants if they disagree with them. Pun intended.

 

[Fred's Myth]

I could agree with you if the courier was reacting like such a caveman to the protesters not having proper written permission. However, he was reacting to an act that has long been seen as constitutional by the SCOTUS. Therefore it is you who is being the simple minded individual. The responsibility that was not met had nothing to do with angering our nationalist FedEx friend.

I don't for a minute believe that the proper permits being acquired was his motivation. I see a likely ex-military veteran who placed his life in harms way in defense of our country, reacting to the desecration of the most prominent symbol of that country. And btw, the Constitution protects that act of free speech from Government interference, not from a free citizen reacting in defense of the flag. Take a Civics course.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

I don't for a minute believe that the proper permits being acquired was his motivation. I see a likely ex-military veteran who placed his life in harms way in defense of our country, reacting to the desecration of the most prominent symbol of that country. And btw, the Constitution protects that act of free speech from Government interference, not from a free citizen reacting in defense of the flag. Take a Civics course.

I'm a vet and would have never come anywhere close to doing what he did.

 

[It will be fine]

I don't for a minute believe that the proper permits being acquired was his motivation. I see a likely ex-military veteran who placed his life in harms way in defense of our country, reacting to the desecration of the most prominent symbol of that country. And btw, the Constitution protects that act of free speech from Government interference, not from a free citizen reacting in defense of the flag. Take a Civics course.

Definition of Battery
the crime or tort of unconsented physical contact with another person, even where the contact is not violent but merely menacing or offensive.

Fedex guy committed Battery arguably assault as well. That is not a protected action dependent on his motivation.

 

[MrFedEx]

Um, they went outside, wet a finger, held it up, and determined that the winds of conservatism best serve their interests. God bless'em!

Yep. If Trumpski weren't President, he would have been canned.

 

[bacha29]

Did they do the right thing?

I find the practice of burning flags to be deplorable but also his behavior to be deplorable.

Our center tells us not to express our personal opinions whenever we drive by a protest. They don't even want us to blow our horns in support.

Right on. One fact cannot be ignored. This wasn't his fight. X may in the end regret coming down on the side of the driver if the protesters decide to sue.

 

[MrFedEx]

Simple-minded people like yourself can only see their side of an argument. The real problem is that the current activists only see what they determine as their "rights", with total disregard for the attendant responsibilities. One does NOT have Constitutional rights unencumbered by responsibilities. There are appropriate and legal ways to exercise your Constitutional rights that do not incite violent response. You have the responsibility to protest appropriately.

Oh, so flag burning isn't appropriate? The Supreme Court case permits it as free speech. Who are you to determine what is "appropriate"?

 

[bbsam]

. And btw, the Constitution protects that act of free speech from Government interference, not from a free citizen reacting in defense of the flag. Take a Civics course.

Are you paying attention to yourself?

The Constitution protects the flag burning from government intervention. Therefore as far as the courier knows, no crime is being committed. There is no "saving Ol' Glory" going on. Aside from the lack of a permit, the protesters are doing nothing wrong.

So when he assaults them because they are performing an act he finds distasteful, his violence is not "free speech" it is criminal and I don't know where in jurisprudence you will find that it is.

Perhaps you might want to brush up on that civics lesson you feel qualified to teach.

 

[Schweddy]

That last article is hard to believe, considering there are no named sources from FedEx about their "backing" the courier.

 

[bbsam]

I think FedEx is waiting on pending charges so they don't have to be "the bad guy" in public opinion.

 

[Yozh69]

I think FedEx is waiting on pending charges so they don't have to be "the bad guy" in public opinion.

Fred was a Marine who was awarded the Silver Star, Bronze Star and two Purple Hearts. I can't believe he would let this guy get canned.

 

[bbsam]

Fred was a Marine who was awarded the Silver Star, Bronze Star and two Purple Hearts. I can't believe he would let this guy get canned.

I can't believe he let's this thug represent the company.

 

[!Retired!]

I would have loved to hear the audio.

The video does have audio. But, I would love to see the actual beginning.

There would have been no violence if they hadn't started it by illegally burning a flag.

Not a Constitutional issue. They had no permit and not a free speech situation.

Which was confirmed by the only persons charged were the flag burners.

While they did not have a permit, it is legal. They were only charged with not having a permit.

I'm sure the fedex guy called the city to inquire about permitting before he took action. He's a vigilante imposing his will through force.

If they had a permit, it is supposed to be displayed. No permit = breaking the law.

I'm still shocked he wasn't fired though.

It would have been FedEx suicide to fire him. I doubt he'll remain a courier though.

I'm a vet and would have never come anywhere close to doing what he did.

That's your choice. I would love to say I would do the same as he did, but I'm honestly not so sure.

Oh, so flag burning isn't appropriate? The Supreme Court case permits it as free speech. Who are you to determine what is "appropriate"?

Only since 1989. Before that they would be calling an ambulance for the protesters. This country has gotten soft.

 

[bbsam]

The video does have audio. But, I would love to see the actual beginning.

While they did not have a permit, it is legal. They were only charged with not having a permit.

If they had a permit, it is supposed to be displayed. No permit = breaking the law.

It would have been FedEx suicide to fire him. I doubt he'll remain a courier though.

That's your choice. I would love to say I would do the same as he did, but I'm honestly not so sure.

Only since 1989. Before that they would be calling an ambulance for the protesters. This country has gotten soft.

Gotten soft? Yeah. If a guy sees people he disagrees with and can't keep his emotions in check, I guess that's a kind of soft. Some might call it in crazy. Yeah. That's what I'd go with.

 

[MrFedEx]

Gotten soft? Yeah. If a guy sees people he disagrees with and can't keep his emotions in check, I guess that's a kind of soft. Some might call it in crazy. Yeah. That's what I'd go with.

Unfortunately, this country in full reverse. We are now in meltdown mode. It feels good to the deplorables right now because they think we are "winning". Actually, we're losing...big time. "Ike" Trump is doing some real damage trying to return us to the 1950's.

There is no time machine. The world is a far different place, and an infantile despot might just get us all killed for the sake of his huge ego.

 

[MrFedEx]

The video does have audio. But, I would love to see the actual beginning.

While they did not have a permit, it is legal. They were only charged with not having a permit.

If they had a permit, it is supposed to be displayed. No permit = breaking the law.

It would have been FedEx suicide to fire him. I doubt he'll remain a courier though.

That's your choice. I would love to say I would do the same as he did, but I'm honestly not so sure.

Only since 1989. Before that they would be calling an ambulance for the protesters. This country has gotten soft.

Those hippies deserved a beatdown, didn't they Mr. Nixon?