What is the REAL reason negotiations have stalled?

[PT 4 Life]

Right to work laws are possible because of the Taft Hartley Act, which 106 of 177 Democrats voted in favor of in the House.

You are a former fed ex employee, who has done nothing in this forum but insult UPS employees and our union.

Now you're trying to divide us on political lines.

Why don't you go back to the FedEx forum and get back to bitching and moaning about how much you hate this country and your life in it.

Why work a union job then? This is what I don’t understand about the RTW state.

 

[Memester]

I just ate my horse paste like a man and went in without a mask like God intended.

You could eat it?

I used mine as a suppository

 

[HarryWarden]

Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

No real response? I guess he’s right then, makes sense why no republicans have publicly supported us. I’m going to have to look into the Wagner act now

 

[HarryWarden]

Nobody knows. It is the first time that UPS has an outsider as CEO even though she has been on BOD for years.

Interesting. Other CEOs were promoted from within?

 

[anonymous23456]

Interesting. Other CEOs were promoted from within?

As far as I know, unless I missed something.

 

[HarryWarden]

What if it's actually a proactive move in a longer term strategy to divide the rank and file? How will hourlies on picket lines feel a week into it if the company comes out and states "Things were looking pretty good until the union leaders got greedy, so now everything we had agreed to before the strike, AC, elimination of 22.4, MLK, is in danger of being off the table..."?

i think that would motivate all the workers striking, and the public, ten fold

 

[PT Car Washer]

Why work a union job then? This is what I don’t understand about the RTW state.

RTW laws are a Republican effort to weaken and eliminate Unions in this country.

 

[anonymous23456]

There was a study done by someone at MIT, I think, that concluded that earnings reports pushed back more than five days was not a good sign versus reports moved forward were a good sign. But I don’t know if it’s data included circumstances of a possible strike. I don’t think the profit/loss data of Aug 1-8 would be included in the second quarter and you could make the same point by revealing that information before August 1 right before a possible strike.

OK. This is my theory. Earning number is bad. Releasing it before the strike will not help UPS negotiating with the Union one iota. UPS stock would be punished by Wall Street and that would be a double whammy. Releasing it after the deal with the Union lessen the blow; oh, look it is bad but at least we have a deal with the Union.

 

[PT 4 Life]

RTW laws are a Republican effort to weaken and eliminate Unions in this country.

What I figured. I’ll never understand the defending of large corporations.

 

[Johney]

Why work a union job then? This is what I don’t understand about the RTW state.

RTW means you're not "Forced" to join a union. Non-RTW states mean you have to join. I believe.

 

[Pullman Brown]

OK. This is my theory. Earning number is bad. Releasing it before the strike will not help UPS negotiating with the Union one iota. UPS stock would be punished by Wall Street and that would be a double whammy. Releasing it after the deal with the Union lessen the blow; oh, look it is bad but at least we have a deal with the Union.

It’s risky either way because you’re assuming a deal by August 8th.

 

[PT 4 Life]

RTW means you're not "Forced" to join a union. Non-RTW states mean you have to join. I believe.

If you don’t care for unions why apply at a job that has one.

 

[anonymous23456]

If you don’t care for unions why apply at a job that has one.

Some place you have no choice! I was a high school kid and had to join the Union for my part time job as a cashier at a grocery store! Talking about unfair. I gave a crap about protection at that job.

 

[Johney]

If you don’t care for unions why apply at a job that has one.

Because they pay more, and in a RTW state you get paid the same as a dues paying member if you choice not to join.

 

[PT 4 Life]

Because they pay more, and in a RTW state you get paid the same as a dues paying member if you choice not to join.

Yeah that sounds silly.

 

[PT 4 Life]

Some place you have no choice! I was a high school kid and had to join the Union for my part time job as a cashier at a grocery store! Talking about unfair. I gave a crap about protection at that job.

You said it yourself you were a high school kid living at home of course something like that wouldn’t matter

 

[anonymous23456]

It’s risky either way because you’re assuming a deal by August 8th.

Well, there has to be a deal with the Union. UPS isn't going to win here nor the Union.

 

[Johney]

Yeah that sounds silly.

Is what it is.

 

[HarryWarden]

Some place you have no choice! I was a high school kid and had to join the Union for my part time job as a cashier at a grocery store! Talking about unfair. I gave a crap about protection at that job.

could have gotten a job somewhere else

 

[anonymous23456]

could have gotten a job somewhere else

I lived in a rural area, and we didn't have many businesses around. It is like telling a kid from West Virginia that if he doesn't like working in a coal mine, he can go working at the Gucci bags store next door.